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This is why you keep your finger off the trigger.

11 Responses to “Tragic”

  1. Dave Says:

    This was a lot more than just keeping the finger off the trigger. There was so much that went wrong in that parking lot.

  2. Lyle Says:

    Removing the magazine and leaving a “bullet” in the chamber is a classic we all learn in gun elementary school. ‘Course you still have to violate two more basic rules to hurt someone.

  3. Henry Says:

    That dude violated all 4 rules at one time; Duh!

  4. Bill P. Says:

    Maybe use a holster and stick it in your pants, or did he walk in to the shop with it in his hand and raise a fuss? My heart goes out to the family.

    Again stupid kills.

  5. Bill P. Says:

    Sorry, “NOT stick it in your pants”

  6. Kevin Baker Says:

    In a case like this, I would not be opposed to a charge of negligent homicide.

  7. Bryan S Says:

    Call me crazy, but they make these things called cases….

  8. Bryan S Says:

    Or as i said on FB:

    Reckless? Yes. Negligent? Yes. Wasted life because someone cannot both make sure a firearm is unloaded and cased / holstered, and placed it loose in a console of a vehicle? YES!

    Put it in a $%#’n proper holster or a case, and keep you %^$#’n finger off the bang switch! Thats how guns go off, not by magic or by themselves.

    This is reason #400000 why we need to educate people, especially young people, before they grow up and do negligent things.

  9. nk Says:

    I don’t agree with “negligent homicide” when it comes to the death of your seven-year old child. You have a duty of special care. It’s murder, he should be hanged.

  10. Sigivald Says:

    nk: This is textbook “involuntary manslaughter” under PA law, if the DA decides that it’s worth charging: […] when as a direct result of the doing […] of a lawful act in a reckless or grossly negligent manner, he causes the death of another person.

    Since the deceased was in his care and under 12, it’s a second degree felony, which seems about right – after all, honestly, it’s not like anything the State can do is going to be worse punishment than he’s going to put himself through.

    This guy’s an idiot, not a monster, as far as can be told.

    What good would hanging him do?

    Punish him? He’ll do that for himself, and in any case there seems to have been no deliberate act worthy of killing in punishment.

    Prevent someone else from doing this? No more than thinking about the dead kid would.

    The death penalty only acts as a deterrent against intentional acts, or maybe might deter complete sociopaths from being reckless with someone else’s life.

    And as a retributive act, it’s completely pointless here.

    I’m frankly inclined to side with the DA and not even be sure charges should be filed … I can’t see what public good (or even private) they’d do.

  11. nk Says:


    I find nothing to disagree with you about.

    But I had a discussion with my daughter, ten years old, about the death penalty.

    No women, no kids.

    Women and kids do not get the death penalty.

    Men who hurt women or kids, become subject to it.

    I agree with you. This man has hurt himself more than society could hurt him. But can society ignore the death of a baby?