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With all the people switching to 9mm, will the competitive shooting associations stop handicapping the guns that fire that round?
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June 5th, 2012 at 9:27 am
Well, the round handicaps them already, so…
π
June 5th, 2012 at 9:43 am
Why would they? Shooting a 9mm is easier than shooting a 40 /45 / 9×25 Dillon. The recoil is MUCH less and from everything I’ve read on the Interweb tubes, a flatter shooting round that should be more accurate.
Shooting a 9mm gives you an advantage, they’re just mitigating it.
June 5th, 2012 at 9:48 am
I don’t understand.
You say that you swapped to 9mm because it IS easier to shoot than .45ACP, and with modern bullet design, you aren’t giving up much in lethality, while making up for it in round count.
Why are you unhappy that IPSC/USPSA agrees with you? π
June 5th, 2012 at 10:08 am
I always understood that IPSC/USPSA made them harder to shoot to compensate for their supposed lack of lethality (power factor and all that crap).
June 5th, 2012 at 10:48 am
i’d be pretty happy if the local idpa just stopped making jokes during the safety meetings about how 9mm will only injure.
June 5th, 2012 at 11:09 am
@Sendarius: IPSC has Power factor. IDPA has to place revolvers and 1911s in separate classes, because the guns are so inferior they can’t compete unless protected.
June 5th, 2012 at 11:31 am
So, they’re like corn farmers?
June 5th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I’ve never IPSCied or or IDPAed, but I suspect they don’t use the same rules for a Ruger 10″ barrel 22LR and a 1911, either. Keeping the playing field smooth and level is what game rules are all about.
On the other hand, learning to shoot for self defense opens up a whole different set of “rules” regarding caliber and firearm type.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
the scoring difference in IPSC, as I understand it, is based entirely on difficulty in shooting accurately. Major is harder to shoot accurately, so you get more points for B, C, and D hits.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
The whole handicapping has purpose behind it, it would be unfair to give the person who can hold more bullets in a magazine, and has less recoil to deal with, the same points for the less difficult areas hit on the target.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Ah so gun fights should be fair? π
June 5th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
@Divemedic:
I didn’t mention IDPA because I only know IPSC.
Personally, I prefer the 1911 platform – and yes, I DO have a Glock and a revolver to compare. π
As for scoring, I like the Paladin scoring system. Hit the middle with the first shot – target neutralised. Hit the edges with the first shot – additional hits required to neutralise the target.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
DVC stands for Accuracy Power Speed. Its Jeff Cooper’s creation and it assumes that the “Major” power factor ammo is more powerful than the “Minor”.
Shooters are rewarded for mastering what is assumed to be more powerful caliber.
I’m convinced that 9x19mm works well enough. I’m not convinced that its the equal of a round with more momentum but I keep my mind open. If you want to organize a movement to eliminate Major/Minor distinctions, more power to you. Pun intended.