CAIR mad at Trijicon
Muslims angry over Jesus rifles. They still to refer to the inscription as secret, even though it’s not a secret. Also, the Army will investigate if Trijicon violated army procurement regs. Err, guys, been there a while and you’ve had them for years.
And layers of editorial oversight: telescoping sights
Err, yeah.
January 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
Can we hope that the end result of this is no worse than each soldier being issued a tiny piece of black tape?
January 21st, 2010 at 11:40 am
To paraphrase Jon Stewart when talking about Naomi Wolff:
“This brings the total number of things that anger Muslims to… 45,234,886!”
January 21st, 2010 at 11:42 am
CAIR can bite me. Time to another thing that p/o’s CAIR to my shopping list…
January 21st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
What will probably happen now is trijicon drops the verses or the military drops trijicon.
January 21st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The military rifles will likely introduce jihadis to God, but it won’t have anything to do with the little stamp on the side.
January 21st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Having spent too much time around federal bureaucrats I make the following prediction:
Trijicon will be forced to remove verse numbers from all items destined for US govt. use. Whether they grind it off or modify the mold/casting process remains to be seen. This will, of course, add cost and delay delivery.
All Trijicon sights in US inventory will have the “offending” numbers ground off.
Some sorry ass under secretary of defense will issue a statement on “sensitivity” and “commitment to diversity.” Grunts, Jarheads, Zoomies and Swabbies will continue to put rounds into tango heads at 500 yds. using Trijicon scopes.
January 21st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
“telescoping sights” Cool, just like in ‘Master & Commander’
January 21st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
I would love to see Trijicon tell the federal bureaucrats to pound sand.
This is something they have done as part of the serial number for 30 years, obviously it in no way affects the function of the product. It isn’t the actual bible verse, simply a set of numbers and letters in the serial number that reference a verse. Whats next federal bureaucrats create a department of serial number compliance for all products?
It would be nice to see Trijicon say if it bothers you pick another gun site we aren’t changing anything. (I doubt they will but I would love to see it)
January 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I imagine they’ll throw a fit over gun oil with pig fat mixed in
January 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
CAIR has yet to specifically denounce muslim terrorist organizations. They need to shut the fuck up.
January 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Last I knew, the Gideon’s still handed out truckloads of free Bibles to the troops. Lots of verses in those things. Can our troops still carry their pocket Bibles into combat?
Has CAIR denounced the proselytizing done by Maj. Hassan when he was counseling troops at Walter Reed, or when he shouted “Allahu Akbar” prior to killing fellow soldiers? No? Didn’t think so.
January 21st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Well said Lance.
January 21st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Imagine the horror a jihadist feels from being shot by a Bible-verse scoped rifle! I’m sure he would feel a lot better if he were shot by a PC scoped rifle.
January 21st, 2010 at 1:56 pm
I doubt we would hear any objections from CAIR if there were references to Koranic verses on the scopes instead of Biblical verses.
Is there anything those CAIR idiots won’t complain about?!? sheesh!
January 21st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Come on, people, cut them some slack. This is CAIR we’re talking about; this is what they do.
January 21st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
You guys see what Colbert said on the topic?
http://extremetolerance.com/blog/quick-update/jesus-rifles-viva-colbert/
Very funny.
January 21st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
It’s funny to me, Islamicists like CAIR start a religious war and then get all mad when they start losing.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I’m probably in the minority here and will get slammed, but I say kill all the damn terrorists you want, however you want, just leave the religion out of it, OK? Doing this is no better than having “Gott Mit Uns” engraved on our belt buckles and lowers us to their level.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Trijicon caves. Figured that they would.
January 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
So Rob, you’re saying that the only thing that was separating the US military from one that committed organized genocide is the lack of a quasi-religious quote on a piece of equipment. Using a rifle with a biblical citation on the scope makes us Nazis?
Let me be the first to slam you. What a load of moral equivalent bullshit.
January 21st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
“Using a rifle with a biblical citation on the scope makes us Nazis?”
No, it means that we both would be using the same philosophy of “My God is bigger than your God, nyeh nyeh!”.
I think our country can effectivly defend itself from it’s enemies without having to resort to God pissing contests. It matters not one whit to me *why* they want to kill us, just that they do and therefore they need to be stopped. Trying to place a reason on their insanity is insane in itself. No different as if some mugger wanted to rob me. I don’t care why he’s doing it, I defend myself as best I can,
January 21st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Robert, grow up. No one even knew about these before some pantywaist threw a shrieking hissy fit. Fairly or not, this is why no one likes atheists. No one likes people get the vapors when “government” and “religion” are even vaguely used in adjacent paragraphs, either. I’m not sure if I should take solace in the tendency of overreactions like this to come back and bite those who started it.
I can only hope that Trijicon keeps these on their general market ones.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
“grow up.”
I have. Amazingly it coincided with the point where I stopped believing in the big guy in the sky.
“No one even knew about these before some pantywaist threw a shrieking hissy fit.”
Meaning that it’s OK because they got away with it for awhile? Maybe because they were hidden to look like part of the serial / model number? If they were so proud of it, why didn’t they just spell out the whole thing by itself? There’s plenty of room on the sight.
“Fairly or not, this is why no one likes atheists. No one likes people get the vapors when “government” and “religion” are even vaguely used in adjacent paragraphs, either.”
Having specific *christian* phrases inscribed on military issue gear is not vague. It’s rather blatant.
“I can only hope that Trijicon keeps these on their general market ones.”
And I hope that they do as well. That’s a private market and they are well within their rights to do as they please there.
January 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 am
Next thing you know they will rub some bacon on the inside of the barrel. That will really piss off the people they are SHOOTING at.
The sensitivity of the military is duly noted. Are the supposed to apologize when they fire at will?
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:33 am
Meaning that it’s OK because they got away with it for awhile? Maybe because they were hidden to look like part of the serial / model number? If they were so proud of it, why didn’t they just spell out the whole thing by itself? There’s plenty of room on the sight.
What do you mean “got away with it?” They can put whatever they like on their stuff. If it makes them happy to know it’s there and they want to leave it as an easter egg for whomever actually takes the time to read the serial number on their sight (such person probably not being al Qaeda or Taliban), then so what? The complaint was a dick move, pure and simple, and done out of spite. It risked harming out troops (unless the modification kits being set out are Sharpies, I presume each scope is going to have to be taken to the unit armorer and thus be out of commission for a bit) to score an extraordinarily petty point.
So who was to be offended by this before people started getting all butthurt? The enemy? Right. The troops? I’d hope anyone issued an ACOG would have the basic maturity not to get the vapors over the indication that the product may have been made by Christian (in a country where the majority of both civilians and soldiers self-identify as Christians). This was petty and vindictive and it could have risked the soldiers’ ability to have these.
Here’s hoping Trijicon ups the price on their “military special” versions while keeping the same price on their regular ones. Screwing with a company and combat troops over something that doesn’t come remotely near violating the Establishment Clause is pretty close to unforgivable.
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Robert, Islam has a name for Muslims that aren’t terrorists: Apostates.
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Well, here’s a thought. If the numbers on Trijicon sights that refer to biblical verse are offensive, how is it that numbers in serial numbers are not offensives to Christians, Jews, Bhuddists, Taoist, et.al.? After all , our numberals have their origin in Muslim Arab countries mathematical advances from centuries ago. Ergo, our numeral system is muslim in origin. Therefore all of us should be offended by their incorporation into serial numbers placed on firearms, automobiles, etc.
Wouldn’t it follow if our government’s sensitivity to religious insensitivity demands the cessation of such, that they should ban serial numbers on firearms? I could get behind that.