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		<title>By: Avtomat</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227170</link>
		<dc:creator>Avtomat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You MOVE, not make a motion</description>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227091</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Beretta 92FS has a lanyard ring.

Tam: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I think Elmer Keith had a good idea when he kept all his guns loaded, all the time.

That way you wouldn’t get into the mindset of thinking &#039;Well, this one’s not really loaded…&#039;&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You know what?  I generally reject the idea of &lt;i&gt;habits&lt;/i&gt; around this stuff.  &quot;Generally,&quot; I said.  Thinking about it in a largely context of zero-defect performance, I recall that my airplane pre-flights used to sort of look like a routine, but the only routine thing about it was a conscious demand of myself to actively think about every single item in the checklist.

That&#039;s the thing: to &lt;i&gt;keep thinking&lt;/i&gt; all the time.

When it comes to things like guns and airplanes -- to my mind -- every element that can possibly be relegated to unconscious routine is a serious danger.  A &quot;mindset&quot;  is an abdication of thought, and that&#039;s the worst thing that a human being can come to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Beretta 92FS has a lanyard ring.</p>
<p>Tam: <i>&#8220;I think Elmer Keith had a good idea when he kept all his guns loaded, all the time.</p>
<p>That way you wouldn’t get into the mindset of thinking &#8216;Well, this one’s not really loaded…&#8217;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You know what?  I generally reject the idea of <i>habits</i> around this stuff.  &#8220;Generally,&#8221; I said.  Thinking about it in a largely context of zero-defect performance, I recall that my airplane pre-flights used to sort of look like a routine, but the only routine thing about it was a conscious demand of myself to actively think about every single item in the checklist.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the thing: to <i>keep thinking</i> all the time.</p>
<p>When it comes to things like guns and airplanes &#8212; to my mind &#8212; every element that can possibly be relegated to unconscious routine is a serious danger.  A &#8220;mindset&#8221;  is an abdication of thought, and that&#8217;s the worst thing that a human being can come to.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227067</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know why he takes his gun out of the holster to cook dinner.  I wear my gun all the time and I typically only see it when changing pants (and even then it&#039;s still in the holster) or when taking it out for firing practice or cleaning.  Cooking dinner?  WTF?

&quot;Always keep your gun in the holster unless cooking dinner&quot; is a new one to me.  But what about breakfast and lunch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know why he takes his gun out of the holster to cook dinner.  I wear my gun all the time and I typically only see it when changing pants (and even then it&#8217;s still in the holster) or when taking it out for firing practice or cleaning.  Cooking dinner?  WTF?</p>
<p>&#8220;Always keep your gun in the holster unless cooking dinner&#8221; is a new one to me.  But what about breakfast and lunch?</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227066</link>
		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Czechs will drop them deliberately.  The British and the French too.  But Canadians, Australians, and Poles, (they all have 1935 variants) will not, so I guess my theory does not hold up all that well.

Ok, I&#039;m a xenophobe and a racist and totally ashamed of myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Czechs will drop them deliberately.  The British and the French too.  But Canadians, Australians, and Poles, (they all have 1935 variants) will not, so I guess my theory does not hold up all that well.</p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m a xenophobe and a racist and totally ashamed of myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Diomed</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227061</link>
		<dc:creator>Diomed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Was the Browning 1935 (Hi-Power) the last pistol to be built with a lanyard ring?&quot;

The CZ 75 SP-01 I bought a few months ago has a lanyard ring. They&#039;re still around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was the Browning 1935 (Hi-Power) the last pistol to be built with a lanyard ring?&#8221;</p>
<p>The CZ 75 SP-01 I bought a few months ago has a lanyard ring. They&#8217;re still around.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227055</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let it drop, just move your foot.</description>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
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		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the Browning 1935 (Hi-Power) the last pistol to be built with a lanyard ring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the Browning 1935 (Hi-Power) the last pistol to be built with a lanyard ring?</p>
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		<title>By: workinwifdakids</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227049</link>
		<dc:creator>workinwifdakids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t this a song?  &quot;Catch a falling gun and put it in your pocket, never let it fall away.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t this a song?  &#8220;Catch a falling gun and put it in your pocket, never let it fall away.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Diamondback</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227048</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamondback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it was a Glock even before I read it.</description>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227047</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never drop a gun in the first place.  Never try to catch a falling gun that won&#039;t fire if dropped.</description>
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		<title>By: Ride Fast</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227045</link>
		<dc:creator>Ride Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should practice kicking the falling gun so it lands in your holster. Like ejecting a round to unload your SA, the round should land on one of your pockets, if you don&#039;t have pockets, just catch it in with your teeth. Show some panache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should practice kicking the falling gun so it lands in your holster. Like ejecting a round to unload your SA, the round should land on one of your pockets, if you don&#8217;t have pockets, just catch it in with your teeth. Show some panache.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote For David</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227041</link>
		<dc:creator>Vote For David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikee, at least some (all?  not sure) Bryco/Jennings/etc. guns are not drop-safe.  People barely able to afford a bottom of the barrel gun are also not likely to be able to afford a holster.  

My favorite warning label remains the one I saw on a Henkels knife package: &quot;Never try to catch a falling knife&quot;

We used to play a lot of darts, and if one bounced all the way back to you, and you caught it, you got a free re-throw.

Ya gotta use your judgement.  For a gun, I&#039;d try to get a foot in the way not to break the fall entirely, but to slow it down a bit.  A little change in velocity might make the difference between an AD and not firing.  A Glock (as in this case) you can let fall unimpeded, with confidence in your safety.

Knives, motorcycles, and chainsaws, I&#039;ll let drop.  Screws also . . . trying to catch a screw might result in a screw across the room . . . just watch very carefully to see where it falls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikee, at least some (all?  not sure) Bryco/Jennings/etc. guns are not drop-safe.  People barely able to afford a bottom of the barrel gun are also not likely to be able to afford a holster.  </p>
<p>My favorite warning label remains the one I saw on a Henkels knife package: &#8220;Never try to catch a falling knife&#8221;</p>
<p>We used to play a lot of darts, and if one bounced all the way back to you, and you caught it, you got a free re-throw.</p>
<p>Ya gotta use your judgement.  For a gun, I&#8217;d try to get a foot in the way not to break the fall entirely, but to slow it down a bit.  A little change in velocity might make the difference between an AD and not firing.  A Glock (as in this case) you can let fall unimpeded, with confidence in your safety.</p>
<p>Knives, motorcycles, and chainsaws, I&#8217;ll let drop.  Screws also . . . trying to catch a screw might result in a screw across the room . . . just watch very carefully to see where it falls.</p>
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		<title>By: Laughingdog</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227036</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughingdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the guys in that thread with their &quot;This wouldn&#039;t happen with a 1911&quot; and &quot;The 1911 has a safety&quot; comments.  I love my 1911.  But bumping off the safety while fumbling with a falling gun doesn&#039;t seem that unlikely, and if you do succeed in grabbing it, you&#039;d probably be reaching for the grip by instinct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the guys in that thread with their &#8220;This wouldn&#8217;t happen with a 1911&#8243; and &#8220;The 1911 has a safety&#8221; comments.  I love my 1911.  But bumping off the safety while fumbling with a falling gun doesn&#8217;t seem that unlikely, and if you do succeed in grabbing it, you&#8217;d probably be reaching for the grip by instinct.</p>
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		<title>By: aeronathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>aeronathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Burris rule&quot; is more like &quot;Don&#039;t carry your weapon without a holster like a gang banging thug.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Burris rule&#8221; is more like &#8220;Don&#8217;t carry your weapon without a holster like a gang banging thug.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227029</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically the NRA basic pistol course teaches 3 rules:

1. Always point in a safe direction
2. Don&#039;t touch trigger until ready to fire
3. Keep unloaded until ready to use

Just finished the instructor course so it&#039;s fresh in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically the NRA basic pistol course teaches 3 rules:</p>
<p>1. Always point in a safe direction<br />
2. Don&#8217;t touch trigger until ready to fire<br />
3. Keep unloaded until ready to use</p>
<p>Just finished the instructor course so it&#8217;s fresh in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;NRA teaches 10 rules, not 4. A lot of people like to skip: ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think Elmer Keith had a good idea when he kept all his guns loaded, all the time.

That way you wouldn&#039;t get into the mindset of thinking &quot;Well, this one&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; loaded...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>NRA teaches 10 rules, not 4. A lot of people like to skip: ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Elmer Keith had a good idea when he kept all his guns loaded, all the time.</p>
<p>That way you wouldn&#8217;t get into the mindset of thinking &#8220;Well, this one&#8217;s not <i>really</i> loaded&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of the resulting ding as character. 

 Character on guns=good. Character on body=bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of the resulting ding as character. </p>
<p> Character on guns=good. Character on body=bad.</p>
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		<title>By: geekWithA.45</title>
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		<dc:creator>geekWithA.45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important, but not #5 worthy.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you can catch it on the way down I wouldn&#039;t want to.  You could drill with an unloaded gun?</description>
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		<title>By: Mikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The four rules are all-inclusive. Understanding what Rule 3 means covers this situation. The rules do not need amending. Do you have a recently dinged handgun you&#039;d like to write about :?

Other than old single action revolvers, will many guns fire if dropped? Is a slightly marred finish worth putting your body in front of a firearm barrel while you grab at it? 

I was a Chemist once, and while glassware is expensive most beakers usually contained something that a &quot;foot break&quot; would splatter all over me. I learned to let a dropped beaker fall, and to get out of the splatter zone if possible. Guns might should be treated similarly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The four rules are all-inclusive. Understanding what Rule 3 means covers this situation. The rules do not need amending. Do you have a recently dinged handgun you&#8217;d like to write about <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Other than old single action revolvers, will many guns fire if dropped? Is a slightly marred finish worth putting your body in front of a firearm barrel while you grab at it? </p>
<p>I was a Chemist once, and while glassware is expensive most beakers usually contained something that a &#8220;foot break&#8221; would splatter all over me. I learned to let a dropped beaker fall, and to get out of the splatter zone if possible. Guns might should be treated similarly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff the Baptist</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227006</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff the Baptist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, let &#039;em drop.  Ditto with knives and swords.  Don Nelson had a sword cleaning post on one of the sword boards.  Among his rules were &quot;don&#039;t try to catch it if it falls&quot; and &quot;keep the cats out of the room.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, let &#8216;em drop.  Ditto with knives and swords.  Don Nelson had a sword cleaning post on one of the sword boards.  Among his rules were &#8220;don&#8217;t try to catch it if it falls&#8221; and &#8220;keep the cats out of the room.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dustydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>dustydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NRA teaches 10 rules, not 4.  A lot of people like to skip: ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.

Sure, it has to be reconciled against CCW, but too many people ignore the principle altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NRA teaches 10 rules, not 4.  A lot of people like to skip: ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.</p>
<p>Sure, it has to be reconciled against CCW, but too many people ignore the principle altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my time around knives and guns has conditioned me to just let stuff fall. I&#039;d hate to try and break the fall of a sharp knife with my tender hoof.

I wouldn&#039;t put it in with the Four Rules, but it&#039;s one of those important corollaries, like &quot;Guns &amp; Booze Don&#039;t Mix&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my time around knives and guns has conditioned me to just let stuff fall. I&#8217;d hate to try and break the fall of a sharp knife with my tender hoof.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it in with the Four Rules, but it&#8217;s one of those important corollaries, like &#8220;Guns &amp; Booze Don&#8217;t Mix&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: D2k</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227003</link>
		<dc:creator>D2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to do the foot thing too, but it&#039;s not good with sharp or heavy objects, so I&#039;m careful when I use it.
Also I&#039;m in favor of the fifth rule and always cite it when teaching new people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to do the foot thing too, but it&#8217;s not good with sharp or heavy objects, so I&#8217;m careful when I use it.<br />
Also I&#8217;m in favor of the fifth rule and always cite it when teaching new people.</p>
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		<title>By: _Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/08/26/i-make-a-motion/comment-page-1/#comment-227000</link>
		<dc:creator>_Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve mentioned before, I&#039;ve learned to stick my foot out to break the fall of things I&#039;ve dropped.  It is effective.  It just takes a bit of training to not move your foot away, but towards.  Try hacky-sack or soccer to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I&#8217;ve learned to stick my foot out to break the fall of things I&#8217;ve dropped.  It is effective.  It just takes a bit of training to not move your foot away, but towards.  Try hacky-sack or soccer to learn.</p>
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