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	<title>Comments on: Kel-Tec P3AT with Lasergrips</title>
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		<title>By: Chirol</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220542</link>
		<dc:creator>Chirol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the help. I&#039;m going to order one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the help. I&#8217;m going to order one.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220498</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh, lay it flat and use a razor or exacto knife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh, lay it flat and use a razor or exacto knife.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220497</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a Hogue Hand-All Jr. I just got one for my p3at. I need to figure out how to shrink it just a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a Hogue Hand-All Jr. I just got one for my p3at. I need to figure out how to shrink it just a little.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220384</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I do not. It&#039;s the smallest one they make, though. If that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I do not. It&#8217;s the smallest one they make, though. If that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Chirol</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220382</link>
		<dc:creator>Chirol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Do you remember which specific model it is? Seems like the Kel Tec would be far too thin for any grip to stay on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Do you remember which specific model it is? Seems like the Kel Tec would be far too thin for any grip to stay on.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220377</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a hogue and I had to take a razor and cut off about 1/4 an inch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a hogue and I had to take a razor and cut off about 1/4 an inch.</p>
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		<title>By: Chirol</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220368</link>
		<dc:creator>Chirol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a P3AT as well and am interested as to which slip on grip you chose for your Kel Tec? Looks like a Hogue cut down to size. I&#039;d really appreciate the tip because I&#039;ve been looking for one that&#039;s the right size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a P3AT as well and am interested as to which slip on grip you chose for your Kel Tec? Looks like a Hogue cut down to size. I&#8217;d really appreciate the tip because I&#8217;ve been looking for one that&#8217;s the right size.</p>
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		<title>By: xc</title>
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		<dc:creator>xc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holsters?  Why would you use a holster?  I use the spring clip to keep it in the small of my back under my pants.  I did switch the clip to the other side as I am right handed, but otherwise it is stock.  I can sit in a car for 8 hours without it bothering me.

Agree on the tight grip comment.  Twenty rounds and I&#039;m through shooting that for the day.  Upside: it makes my Gold Cup feel pretty tame!

-XC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holsters?  Why would you use a holster?  I use the spring clip to keep it in the small of my back under my pants.  I did switch the clip to the other side as I am right handed, but otherwise it is stock.  I can sit in a car for 8 hours without it bothering me.</p>
<p>Agree on the tight grip comment.  Twenty rounds and I&#8217;m through shooting that for the day.  Upside: it makes my Gold Cup feel pretty tame!</p>
<p>-XC</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/05/05/kel-tec-p3at-with-lasergrips/comment-page-1/#comment-220330</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they made the laser for the kel-tec before the ruger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they made the laser for the kel-tec before the ruger.</p>
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		<title>By: FatWhiteMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatWhiteMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing Ruger chose the Kel-Tec to copy. Crimson Trace would have never made a Laser just for the Kel-Tec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing Ruger chose the Kel-Tec to copy. Crimson Trace would have never made a Laser just for the Kel-Tec.</p>
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		<title>By: Rivrdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rivrdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 06:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoeMerchant24: I use a DeSantis pocket holster with my P3AT. It has a &quot;sticky&quot; rubber coating on the outside, and a slick silk-like lining inside. Dono if it will fit with a laser on the front of the trigger guard, though. The way I see it, my P3AT is a belly gun, and the range for a belly gun is contact to 8 feet, so the laser is probably not necessary. I also carry a Kel-Tec P-11 (9X19) when I&#039;m not carrying the P3AT, and I do shoot that one out to 25 yards, so a laser might be nice on it, but it also has nice 3-dot sights, and I don&#039;t have any problem sighting it. I qualified with it last year on the police Tactical Pistol course (a twilight shoot, no less!), and I was the first ever shooter of that course to even try with a Kel-Tec. 

Firehand: If you have everything to load .380 but hulls, couldn&#039;t you use some 9X19 hulls trimmed down 2mm? There are all kinds of 9mm hulls out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeMerchant24: I use a DeSantis pocket holster with my P3AT. It has a &#8220;sticky&#8221; rubber coating on the outside, and a slick silk-like lining inside. Dono if it will fit with a laser on the front of the trigger guard, though. The way I see it, my P3AT is a belly gun, and the range for a belly gun is contact to 8 feet, so the laser is probably not necessary. I also carry a Kel-Tec P-11 (9X19) when I&#8217;m not carrying the P3AT, and I do shoot that one out to 25 yards, so a laser might be nice on it, but it also has nice 3-dot sights, and I don&#8217;t have any problem sighting it. I qualified with it last year on the police Tactical Pistol course (a twilight shoot, no less!), and I was the first ever shooter of that course to even try with a Kel-Tec. </p>
<p>Firehand: If you have everything to load .380 but hulls, couldn&#8217;t you use some 9X19 hulls trimmed down 2mm? There are all kinds of 9mm hulls out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Firehand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firehand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, I&#039;m very thankful I got a set of .380 dies and some suitable bullets a while back; as you note, even if I could find factory ammo right now I couldn&#039;t afford to shoot the stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, I&#8217;m very thankful I got a set of .380 dies and some suitable bullets a while back; as you note, even if I could find factory ammo right now I couldn&#8217;t afford to shoot the stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the secret to getting good accuracy out of the kel-tec is to have a death grip on the gun when you fire it. Without lasers, I can bounce coke cans around at the 10 yard range and hit them most of the time at 15 yards. 

After a long session, the gun does eat into the web of my hand and my fingers begin to get sore and shaky from the effort, but we are talking 100+ rounds, not the length of a gunfight. 

The gun is well engineered to do what it does. It&#039;s accurate, reliable and it doesn&#039;t print when you pocket carry. And it&#039;s cheap! 

The only trick now is to find some ammo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the secret to getting good accuracy out of the kel-tec is to have a death grip on the gun when you fire it. Without lasers, I can bounce coke cans around at the 10 yard range and hit them most of the time at 15 yards. </p>
<p>After a long session, the gun does eat into the web of my hand and my fingers begin to get sore and shaky from the effort, but we are talking 100+ rounds, not the length of a gunfight. </p>
<p>The gun is well engineered to do what it does. It&#8217;s accurate, reliable and it doesn&#8217;t print when you pocket carry. And it&#8217;s cheap! </p>
<p>The only trick now is to find some ammo.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sew a loop of paracord to the bottom of the holster ... then turn your pants pocket inside out and sew a button to the bottom of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sew a loop of paracord to the bottom of the holster &#8230; then turn your pants pocket inside out and sew a button to the bottom of it.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeMerchant24</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeMerchant24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the LaserGrips I own, the Kel-Tec set is by far the most useful. 

They were the most accurate out of the box (first 10 shots at 10 yards stayed on a 4x6 index card).

The button is also easier for me to work than the set on my G30 or J-frame. 

I need a better pocket holster, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the LaserGrips I own, the Kel-Tec set is by far the most useful. </p>
<p>They were the most accurate out of the box (first 10 shots at 10 yards stayed on a 4&#215;6 index card).</p>
<p>The button is also easier for me to work than the set on my G30 or J-frame. </p>
<p>I need a better pocket holster, though.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sold separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sold separately.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I dig the holster. Did that come with the laser?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I dig the holster. Did that come with the laser?</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want some for mine as well, they&#039;re just out of my financial reach at the moment. 

Personally, I think there&#039;s a damned good psychological advantage to a laser. You can see when a firearm is pointed at you with a laser and there&#039;s the assumption that the laser is going to help you shoot better. If you manage to see a red dot on your chest, that&#039;s kind of unnerving, and might possibly deescalate the situation.

And if not, you can put the bullet right where the red dot is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want some for mine as well, they&#8217;re just out of my financial reach at the moment. </p>
<p>Personally, I think there&#8217;s a damned good psychological advantage to a laser. You can see when a firearm is pointed at you with a laser and there&#8217;s the assumption that the laser is going to help you shoot better. If you manage to see a red dot on your chest, that&#8217;s kind of unnerving, and might possibly deescalate the situation.</p>
<p>And if not, you can put the bullet right where the red dot is.</p>
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