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	<title>Comments on: Two sticks and a chain are illegal in NY?</title>
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		<title>By: ChrisTheEngineer</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/03/05/two-sticks-and-a-chain-are-illegal-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-216561</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisTheEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also illegal in Washington State.  But OK in Idaho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also illegal in Washington State.  But OK in Idaho.</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
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		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Uncle.  &quot;Weapon&quot; is a relative term.  The most beautiful gun ever made, in my opinion*, was the 1851 Colt Navy, but I realize that its success was because it was used against Indians with lances, bows and trade muskets, and white men with similar coal-burners.  Would I carry it as a defensive arm, today?  No.

*Today anyway.  I reserve the right to &quot;alteration find&quot;.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Uncle.  &#8220;Weapon&#8221; is a relative term.  The most beautiful gun ever made, in my opinion*, was the 1851 Colt Navy, but I realize that its success was because it was used against Indians with lances, bows and trade muskets, and white men with similar coal-burners.  Would I carry it as a defensive arm, today?  No.</p>
<p>*Today anyway.  I reserve the right to &#8220;alteration find&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nk, not sure. must have triggered a spam word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nk, not sure. must have triggered a spam word.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nunchakos are considered &quot;prohibited items&quot; here in Germany too and are strictly banned.
Guns are extremely regulated with 12 month shooting club training (at least 18 proven trainings/year) before the first gun, 2 guns per 6 month, guns only for state-approved disciplines, extended background checks, mandatory safety and law course, full registration, additional &quot;good reason&quot; and tougher requirements for handguns, pump-action and semi-autos and even more regulations to fill a whole book. Ammo and reloading are strictly regulated, too. No IDPA, and IPSC is also &quot;cut down&quot;.
And if law changes, you suddenly have &quot;prohibited guns&quot; which must be scrapped or sold for nearly nothing. Happened last year to owners of shorter pump-actions and handguns with centerfire&lt;6,3mm (deemed &quot;cop killers&quot;).
In a country of about 80 Mio. people, we have about 600 (yes, six hundred) carry licenses, strictly regulated and limited too.
Everything, of course, for &quot;the greater good&quot; and &quot;security&quot;... Brady Paradise over here :-(

Parts that sound familiar? I wish we had a 2A, too. Keep good care of yours. Freedom is hardly gained, but easily lost.

Dante</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nunchakos are considered &#8220;prohibited items&#8221; here in Germany too and are strictly banned.<br />
Guns are extremely regulated with 12 month shooting club training (at least 18 proven trainings/year) before the first gun, 2 guns per 6 month, guns only for state-approved disciplines, extended background checks, mandatory safety and law course, full registration, additional &#8220;good reason&#8221; and tougher requirements for handguns, pump-action and semi-autos and even more regulations to fill a whole book. Ammo and reloading are strictly regulated, too. No IDPA, and IPSC is also &#8220;cut down&#8221;.<br />
And if law changes, you suddenly have &#8220;prohibited guns&#8221; which must be scrapped or sold for nearly nothing. Happened last year to owners of shorter pump-actions and handguns with centerfire&lt;6,3mm (deemed &#8220;cop killers&#8221;).<br />
In a country of about 80 Mio. people, we have about 600 (yes, six hundred) carry licenses, strictly regulated and limited too.<br />
Everything, of course, for &#8220;the greater good&#8221; and &#8220;security&#8221;&#8230; Brady Paradise over here <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Parts that sound familiar? I wish we had a 2A, too. Keep good care of yours. Freedom is hardly gained, but easily lost.</p>
<p>Dante</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
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		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why am I in moderation?</description>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
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		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mikee #4 with one reservation.  I got my nunchakus when I was seventeen or so, after seeing Bruce Lee playing with them in &quot;Enter the Dragon&quot; and my impression is that they are not weapons -- they are dangerous (to their user) toys.  I also have a small, short-handled, bushbaby with an axe-blade opposite the hook bill that my mother-in-law shipped to me from Europe.  Now that is a weapon.  But you have to take care on the back stroke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mikee #4 with one reservation.  I got my nunchakus when I was seventeen or so, after seeing Bruce Lee playing with them in &#8220;Enter the Dragon&#8221; and my impression is that they are not weapons &#8212; they are dangerous (to their user) toys.  I also have a small, short-handled, bushbaby with an axe-blade opposite the hook bill that my mother-in-law shipped to me from Europe.  Now that is a weapon.  But you have to take care on the back stroke.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once we get far enough along with the projectile, edged, and blunt weapons being protected by the 2A I want to start in on explosives. The ATF paperwork and license fees are annoying. The government shouldn&#039;t be able to require the licensing of a right.

And that doesn&#039;t even address the intrastate only aspect of my explosives manufacture and &quot;distribution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once we get far enough along with the projectile, edged, and blunt weapons being protected by the 2A I want to start in on explosives. The ATF paperwork and license fees are annoying. The government shouldn&#8217;t be able to require the licensing of a right.</p>
<p>And that doesn&#8217;t even address the intrastate only aspect of my explosives manufacture and &#8220;distribution&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common tools were the weapons of choice for the otherwise disarmed peasants in feudal societies, and a rice flail works just fine when applied to rice or to another person&#039;s head. Currently, it seems that no policeman would possibly mind a threee foot length of rebar or a long-handled shovel kept in my pickup truck bed, and I can walk down any street in my town with an aluminum T-ball bat in my hands. My personal favorite farming weapon is a hook-billed ditch weeder that looks more like a halberd than anything else. &quot;Swingblade&quot; got his nickname for a reason, ernnn-hmmmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common tools were the weapons of choice for the otherwise disarmed peasants in feudal societies, and a rice flail works just fine when applied to rice or to another person&#8217;s head. Currently, it seems that no policeman would possibly mind a threee foot length of rebar or a long-handled shovel kept in my pickup truck bed, and I can walk down any street in my town with an aluminum T-ball bat in my hands. My personal favorite farming weapon is a hook-billed ditch weeder that looks more like a halberd than anything else. &#8220;Swingblade&#8221; got his nickname for a reason, ernnn-hmmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: ka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything that could make an effective weapon is illegal. That is why the police tell you to use your car keys to fend off an attacker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that could make an effective weapon is illegal. That is why the police tell you to use your car keys to fend off an attacker.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are illegal here in the Peoples Republic of MA. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are illegal here in the Peoples Republic of MA. . .</p>
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		<title>By: _Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>_Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some that are connected by a piece of wire (thick cable).  No chains involved.

If you look at it kinda funny, it also resembles two cans and a string....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some that are connected by a piece of wire (thick cable).  No chains involved.</p>
<p>If you look at it kinda funny, it also resembles two cans and a string&#8230;.</p>
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