Comments on: Post Heller Chicago Suit

By: Redbob

Redbob — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:01:32 +0000

I would say, comparing this to the civil rights struggles of the last century, that we are more accurately just past “Brown v Board of Education,” since that decision, while a landmark, was by no means the end of segregation. Segregated schools, movie theaters, restaurants, etc. persisted in both the South and the North for at least a decade afterward.
“Heller” was our “Brown,” but the struggle will continue for many years, and to drag that metaphor out just a bit longer, having B. Hussein Obama as President will be equivalent to what a George C. Wallace Presidency would have meant to civil rights.

By: retro

retro — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:02:10 +0000

Yet more proof that America is no longer a nation under the Rule of Law.

Riots and chaos to follow soon…

By: Harold

Harold — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:28:07 +0000

Weer’d Beard: In a situation like D.C., the point is to get the government to violate court directions to the point where the court orders them to Do The Right Thing, after which violations are contempt of court (I’m in this case assuming they won’t fold) or perhaps even a special master is appointed to supervise the government.

Judges don’t like their will being thwarted so that moves things into a different domain but the courts have to assume good will until a party demonstrates otherwise.

This dance happens all the time and if you compare our fight to the civil rights one of the last century we’re at a point somewhere before Brown v. Board of Education. E.g. there was a case that merely enforced “separate but equal” on the University of Missouri, but it had little or no actual effect, or at least plaintiff was nowhere to be found when the case was finally decided in his favor. But it was “a good first step”.

By: _Jon

_Jon — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:13:35 +0000

The positive I take from it is that – eventually – the lawyers on our side are going to get paid. The more money they make, the more money they can spend to help the cause. At least the citizens of Illinois are getting something good for their tax dollars.

In a way, we gunnies should thank Chicago for not only helping to further our cause, but also for ‘donating’ money to the NRA.

By: Weer'd Beard

Weer'd Beard — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:03:58 +0000

I fail to get excited over such things, given that DC still has refused to honor the Heller ruling.

What’s the point?

By: Pirate News TV

Pirate News TV — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:04:03 +0000

Yes, that’s an accurate explantion of what happens in federal courts for any Constitutional case. The lower judges ignore the constitution 95% of the time, knowing 99% of folks cannot afford to appeal. It costs $100,000 per normal lawsuit just at the local district court level, with perhaps $1-million to argue at the Supreme Court level.

Unless a person is pro se without a lawyer, and is home-schooled on winning in court, with a winning record in lower courts and appeals in other cases.