Comments on: NICS-knack-paddy-wack give a dog a bone

By: John H.

John H. — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:50:04 +0000

Ron, Hunter, you guys better shut up lest some white folks hear you talking that way.

By: Tam

Tam — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:33:27 +0000

Actually I believe that corrosive primers will outlast non-corrosive primers all things being equal.

This is truth, and is the reason that military ammunition used corrosive primers longer than commercial ammunition; they are more stable for long term storage and less temperature sensitive. (The temp sensitivity issue is why the East Bloc never stopped using corrosive primers.)

If you have commercial “Kleen Bore” non-corrosive ammo from the ’30s, it’s probably deader than Elvis, but my stocks of WWI-era 8mm Lebel and 1930s-vintage 8×56mmR light off just fine.

By: BntyHunter

BntyHunter — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:34:15 +0000

A wise man once told me “If it’s time to bury them then it is time to use them.” Take it however you want…

By: Rivrdog

Rivrdog — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:50:28 +0000

A buddy gave me some old 7.62X39 that is actually corroded. On the outside. The hulls are steel, and then copper-washed, but if the copper coating gets scratched down to the steel, the steel rusts. I suspect that the rusty spots make the hull too weak to stand up to firing pressure, so I go through the bucket o’old ammo every so often, and put all the rusty stuff into another container.

BTW, my 7.62X39 is one which was grandfathered in the late AWB, a Ruger Mini-30. It DOES NOT LIKE Russkie ammo, because it has a .308 barrel, not a .311 like an SKS or AK. It also doesn’t like the tough Russ primers, about a third of which don’t go off when struck. I have given up on Russ, and only shoot US-made ammo in it, or reloads I make myself with a Sierra 130-grain bullet in a US brass hull.

I looked at a recent Mini-30 and they now advise against shooting East Bloc ammo….

I would think twice before burying any Russ ammo, unless it’s in the original “spam” can it came in. Also, when you eventually dig it up, I’d examine every round before I put it in a magazine or stripper clip.

By: Avenger29

Avenger29 — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:03:56 +0000

Clearances, not tolerances. CLEARANCES

SKSs are cheaper for the burying, anyway. I don’t think I have the balls to stick a $1K+ rifle in the ground…but SKS and Mosin Nagants are good, cheap burying fodder if you must.

By: Ron W

Ron W — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:05:56 +0000

If we have to resort to hiding what we have a right to keep and carry, then…

“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
- Thomas Jefferson

By: Joe Huffman

Joe Huffman — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:34:54 +0000

I bought all my PVC pipe in ‘94.

By: GrumpyUnk

GrumpyUnk — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:15:46 +0000

And don’t forget to “Seed” the area with nuts, bolts and varying sizes of scrap steel.

By: Madrocketscientist

Madrocketscientist — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:24:34 +0000

Those Vacuum seal bags are pretty tough. Oil the gun and toss in a pouch of desiccant, then vacuum seal it and put it in a sealed PVC pipe.

By: Wolfwood

Wolfwood — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:45:54 +0000

If you’re intending to keep this gun buried for forty years than I’m thinking you’ve got bigger problems. Maybe one’s money would be better invested in machine and casting tools, blueprints, and a chemistry set in such a case?

By: emdfl

emdfl — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:24:12 +0000

Actually I believe that corrosive primers will outlast non-corrosive primers all things being equal. Not saying they both won’t break down under adverse conditions, but remember non-corrosive primers didn’t exist until pretty much after WWII. And keep in mind how long some(still perfectly functional) surplus ammo has been around.
Of course we are not talking about cordite-loaded .303 Brit here, heh, heh.

By: SayUncle

SayUncle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:56:04 +0000

I’ve seen corrosive primers rot when not stored in the recommended cool dry place.

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:54:07 +0000

Um, I think “corrosive ammo” is ammo that has corrosive primers and is likely to cause your gun to rust if you don’t clean it soon after every time you fire it. I don’t think it has anything to do with the ammo’s ability to withstand corrosion.

By: scooter

scooter — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:34:47 +0000

Boy does my timing suck, after waiting a long time I finally start an AR build project. I cant find an AR15 upper assembly anywhere!!!

By: Vote For David

Vote For David — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:51:10 +0000

PVC is probably down along with everything else it takes to make a house.

By: Alan

Alan — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:51:10 +0000

I think a little dirt in the action actually improves an AK.

By: SayUncle

SayUncle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:36:36 +0000

Well, the scare the white folks bit is more about the whole threatening to kill people and bureaucrats; threats of revolution; and other gun nutty things. Not gun ownership.

I’m not sure why that differentiation isn’t clear.

By: Hartley

Hartley — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:35:56 +0000

Waving ‘em around might scare folks.. out in the street in front of your house. But taking them to the range and inviting others to join in the fun might work wonders.

By: Lornkanaga

Lornkanaga — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:33:12 +0000

What’s this about coming out of the closet? I thought we weren’t supposed to “scare the white folks” — wouldn’t waving our ARs around scare ‘em?

(sigh) I’m confused.