And by that definition, I suppose people that wear shriner hats are a minority too, since they are not a minority, right?

I would love to see that sentence diagrammed…

Come on tam-my

Ooh! Ow! I am cut to the quick!

we all know that is what we are talking aboot here, a minority

Well, I know what I was talking about here, before you jumped into the middle of the discussion and got spittle all over the inside of my monitor screen.

Seriously, dude, simmer down. I didn’t use the term “minority” until you did; I merely made a list of various demographic groups that have traditionally seen a majority of their members vote against Second Amendment rights. It was you who then started nattering about “minorities”. Did you want to rephrase your post to say “don’t equate gays with ethnic groups”? ‘Cause if that’s what you meant, I’d whole heartedly agree. But saying they’re not a “minority” is taking the chainsaw of PC-speak to the English language, for they most certainly are.

Follow? It’s as ludicrous as saying a business owned by a woman is a “minority-owned business” when anyone who can count can see that we are not a minority.

But let us stop this farce that a person copulating with somebody of the same sex is akin to a minority.

Well, I’m fairly certain that people attracted to the same sex are not a majority, so what word would you have us use?

(Oh, and I wasn’t comparing homosexuals to minorities; I believe I used women in that list and I’m fairly certain we’re actually a majority.)

first and foremost, refer me to where i advocated denying anyone their “essential civil rights”…if you read what i wrote you will find quite the contrary.

second, who cares that a consortium of single-issue individuals would take over the administration of a government entity and then proceed to deny my rights and freedoms? i care, and so had you better if you want to maintain them, and i don’t care if those partisans are male, female or in between, black, white blue or green, jew, protestant or nothing at all; that has not a damn thing to do with it.

third, what i’m trying to say, girl, is that regardless of what your sweet momma taught you out of the goodness of her heart in trying to raise you with manners and civility, kow-towing to a group-any group-that clearly is contemptuos of your rights and interests, expecting to receive their kind and gracious consideration in return is gross error…france and poland are full of graves and veterans that can testify to that very harsh lesson.

jtc

And sorry, bending over and taking it alongside the liberals are not going to save the GOP. Notice that even California rejected gay marriage. As soon as the GOP stops taking its cues from the liberal direction, then it can get back on track.

so do you believe that the town fathers or mothers of that town will welcome a gun show

Who cares?

Do you think a majority of women, or African-Americans, or people of the Jewish faith, or New York City residents, if taken as a whole, would vote to allow gun shows?

Does that mean they should be denied their essential civil rights?

so do you believe that the town fathers or mothers of that town will welcome a gun show and gun rights advocates and that gay rights activists in general are similar in mindset to the pink pistols?

jtc

and i really don’t give a rats ass who or what self-interested group or individual objects to my opinion.

‘cuz they’re like assholes, you know, everybody has one…and time will tell whose are borne out.

jtc

what level of support for your rights is exchanged in quid pro quo for your support of theirs.

So, if they deny civil rights, I should deny civil rights? Because two wrongs make a right?

these are as a rule and by definition some of the most radically liberal citizens in this country…do you doubt for one second that your cherished Constitutional rights will be discarded as soon and as thoroughly as can be allowed?

Tell it to the Pink Pistols.

Or, better yet, maybe you could copy and paste this comment and leave it here or here. I’m sure they would appreciate it.

i too support the right of individuals to live their lives however they choose and to be free to do as they please…unless and until the exercise of those rights infringes on mine; do you believe the people who have executed a ninja takeover of that small town government are any different than the dogmatic freaks who operate the “church” of brother ron h. or the child rapists who cover their activities with the cloak of twisted and regressive mormonism?

they are doing what they do not to live their own lives and exercise their own freedoms, but to usurp yours through serruptitious takeover and control, to further their own agenda to the exclusion of what is right and desireable for the populace at large.

these are as a rule and by definition some of the most radically liberal citizens in this country…do you doubt for one second that your cherished Constitutional rights will be discarded as soon and as thoroughly as can be allowed? do you really not know that the infringement of those rights will occur not by openly national pronouncement but by incremental local erosion and control?

the next time you decide to make a hilarious derogatory comment about someone who has shown concern of this gradual defilement of “values”, and blindly offer up your support of non-traditional “rights”, just keep in mind whose values and rights are being substituted and sacrificed for them, and maybe ask a few of those whose rights you so reflexively speak up for just where they stand on values and rights that you hold to be self-evident and sancrosanct; then go ahead and apply for a permit to hold a gun show in that arkansas town and see what level of support for your rights is exchanged in quid pro quo for your support of theirs.

jtc

I lived in Midtown Atlanta for many years and never once saw anybody turn into a pillar of salt, even at the local hole-in-the-wall gay bar, of which I was a loyal patron because A) They had Whitbread Ale on draft for $1.25, B) It was within walking distance of my apartment, C) The pool tables were only a quarter, and D) Did I mention they had Whitbread Ale on draft for $1.25?

Really, it’s the GOP’s pandering to the Gay Cooties-fearing Relicons that is going to cost them as the generations that gave a crap about that stuff gradually die off…

All that said, I could totally see how Eureka Springs would make conservative “family values” Christians wig the fuck out. Which, in my book, is another reason to love the place.