Comments on: Field and Stream interviews the candidates http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:55:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tjbbpgob http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207317 tjbbpgob Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:05:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207317 If he's using the correct termanology in reference to weapons it's because someone has put it on the telepromter. If he’s using the correct termanology in reference to weapons it’s because someone has put it on the telepromter.

]]> By: DirtCrashr http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207248 DirtCrashr Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:51:33 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207248 Genuine??? There's nothing genuine about him, it's all a cultivated work in progress. Genuine??? There’s nothing genuine about him, it’s all a cultivated work in progress.

]]> By: Huck http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207245 Huck Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:44:51 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207245 The question becomes whether it?s out of expediency and a desire to get votes or if it?s genuine. Obama has a long record of being anti-second ammendment. The fact that he picked one of the most rabidly anti-second ammendment people in the USA for his running mate confirms that. He's claiming a change of heart to try and win gun owner's votes. After November 4th, win or lose, he'll swing right back to his normal anti-gun self. I have no doubt about it. The question becomes whether it?s out of expediency and a desire to get votes or if it?s genuine.

Obama has a long record of being anti-second ammendment. The fact that he picked one of the most rabidly anti-second ammendment people in the USA for his running mate confirms that. He’s claiming a change of heart to try and win gun owner’s votes.

After November 4th, win or lose, he’ll swing right back to his normal anti-gun self. I have no doubt about it.

]]> By: thirdpower http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207239 thirdpower Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:34:13 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207239 He was actually the sponsor on several anti-gun pieces of legislation: http://www.sportsmenforobama.org/content/view/39/33/ He also had a lengthy diatribe against CCW: http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040401.pdf pg 100 His legislative and historical record shows where he stands. He was actually the sponsor on several anti-gun pieces of legislation:

http://www.sportsmenforobama.org/content/view/39/33/

He also had a lengthy diatribe against CCW:

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040401.pdf

pg 100

His legislative and historical record shows where he stands.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207231 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:49:06 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207231 not relevant to me whether it's driving. as prez, he'll sign laws. and he has no issue signing gun bans. not relevant to me whether it’s driving. as prez, he’ll sign laws. and he has no issue signing gun bans.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207229 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:47:39 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207229 Again, where is his record of guns being a driving issue in his legislative career. That is all I said, that I don't think it was that important of an issue for him. When asked, he's given his opinion; and when presented with bills, he's voted on some, but his main focus has been on education, health care, campaign finance, etc... Again, where is his record of guns being a driving issue in his legislative career. That is all I said, that I don’t think it was that important of an issue for him. When asked, he’s given his opinion; and when presented with bills, he’s voted on some, but his main focus has been on education, health care, campaign finance, etc…

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207228 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:44:37 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207228 it's possible. but obama's record indicates otherwise. it’s possible. but obama’s record indicates otherwise.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207227 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:40:13 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207227 <i>In 2005, the Joyce Foundation paid grants in the amount of $8,385,304 in its Environment program, $7,888,380 in its Education program, $6,302,775 in its Employment program, $3,056,117 in its Gun Violence Program, $2,818,105 in its Money and Politics program, and $1,427,350 in its Culture program. Source: The Joyce Foundation 2005 Annual Report, Page 45</i> So, in 2005, 10% of their funding went towards gun violence programs. So, the question remains, is it possible for someone to be on the board, or even director of, a group whose main focus is environmental and education policy, but who also deals somewhat in crime and gun issues, and still not have the issue of guns be a driving force in their legislative career? In 2005, the Joyce Foundation paid grants in the amount of $8,385,304 in its Environment program, $7,888,380 in its Education program, $6,302,775 in its Employment program, $3,056,117 in its Gun Violence Program, $2,818,105 in its Money and Politics program, and $1,427,350 in its Culture program. Source: The Joyce Foundation 2005 Annual Report, Page 45

So, in 2005, 10% of their funding went towards gun violence programs.

So, the question remains, is it possible for someone to be on the board, or even director of, a group whose main focus is environmental and education policy, but who also deals somewhat in crime and gun issues, and still not have the issue of guns be a driving force in their legislative career?

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207225 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:28:19 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207225 he was a director. crime issues? Puhlease. it's a gun ban group that pays for some of the more <a href="http://www.georgiapacking.org/links_antigun.php" rel="nofollow">ridiculous anti-gun organizations</a>. he was a director. crime issues? Puhlease. it’s a gun ban group that pays for some of the more ridiculous anti-gun organizations.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207223 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:26:11 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207223 He ran it or he was on its board? But the Joyce Foundation is a multi-faceted organization dealing with environmental, cultural, employment, education, good government, and yes crime issues. Your interest relates solely to the guns, so that is what you seem to presume the organization is entirely about. He ran it or he was on its board?

But the Joyce Foundation is a multi-faceted organization dealing with environmental, cultural, employment, education, good government, and yes crime issues.

Your interest relates solely to the guns, so that is what you seem to presume the organization is entirely about.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207222 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:23:02 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207222 Because I don't quite feel like spending the next 5 hours doing research. In 2000-01 he was the lead sponsor on dealing with issues related to post partum depression, employment security, long term medical care, income tax/venture capital?, medicaid prescription prices, children's insurance, earned income credit, state employee diversity, utility prices, domestic violence, video taped interrogations, etc... Because I don’t quite feel like spending the next 5 hours doing research.

In 2000-01 he was the lead sponsor on dealing with issues related to post partum depression, employment security, long term medical care, income tax/venture capital?, medicaid prescription prices, children’s insurance, earned income credit, state employee diversity, utility prices, domestic violence, video taped interrogations, etc…

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207220 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:13:06 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207220 And how could it not be a driving issue for him? He ran the Joyce Foundation. And how could it not be a driving issue for him? He ran the Joyce Foundation.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207219 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:10:59 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207219 and was lead sponsor of what? and was lead sponsor of what?

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207218 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:04:29 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207218 He sponsored about <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html" rel="nofollow">800 bills int he State Senate.</a> I'm not arguing whether he was or wasn't "anti-gun," I'm simply saying I don't think it was a driving issue for him. He sponsored about 800 bills int he State Senate.

I’m not arguing whether he was or wasn’t “anti-gun,” I’m simply saying I don’t think it was a driving issue for him.

]]> By: Chas http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207217 Chas Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:01:53 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207217 Obama was all for gun control but has since temporarily changed his rhetoric for the election. Obama was all for gun control but has since temporarily changed his rhetoric for the election.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207212 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:52:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207212 was he ever the lead sponsor of any legislation? Head of the anti-gun Joyce foundation; said he supported banning handguns; voted for a sweeping gun ban; etc. was he ever the lead sponsor of any legislation?

Head of the anti-gun Joyce foundation; said he supported banning handguns; voted for a sweeping gun ban; etc.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207211 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:49:13 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207211 Was he ever the lead sponsor on a piece of gun legislation? Was he ever the lead sponsor on a piece of gun legislation?

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207208 SayUncle Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:40:15 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207208 sure they were, when it came to banning them. sure they were, when it came to banning them.

]]> By: Sean Braisted http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/09/18/field-and-stream-interviews-the-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-207207 Sean Braisted Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:35:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=18373#comment-207207 <i>The question becomes whether it?s out of expediency and a desire to get votes or if it?s genuine. </i> He's aiming to represent a different constituency. I don't think gun issues were ever a real major driving issue for him. The question becomes whether it?s out of expediency and a desire to get votes or if it?s genuine.

He’s aiming to represent a different constituency. I don’t think gun issues were ever a real major driving issue for him.

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