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	<title>Comments on: Crimson Trace Laser Grips as a training aid</title>
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		<title>By: W</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/28/crimson-trace-laser-grips-as-a-training-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-205832</link>
		<dc:creator>W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I immediately saw the potential for lasers on a defensive handgun, but what pushed me over the edge was the night shooting portion of a Ken Hackathorn class a few years ago.  Once you have hit an 8&quot; steel plate during a &quot;walk back&quot; drill at night, you won&#039;t need any more convincing.  Period.  End of discussion.

Yes, they have a significant training advantage during dry firing practice (best and cheapest practice, by the way), but once you fire 5-10 rounds weak-hand, well, there isn&#039;t enough Kool-Aid to be had.  Skip the pitcher and line up for the keg.  When it comes to a life and death matter, there is no such thing as a fair fight and the laser tips the scale in your favor.

Now, you can still muff-up your shots (press the trigger straight back) but in close quarters, the little red dot is ridiculously fast on the target.  

I&#039;m a Crimson Trace bigot and I have a set on mine, and my wife&#039;s handguns (10 pair on 1911s, Glocks, Sigs, and S&amp;W).  CT grips are easy to install, maintain, and use.  The only thing you have to do if you have a long shooting session with oil/lubrication on your slide (1911 shooters take note), you will need to use the Q-Tip that CT provides in the box.  The oil will &quot;fly&quot; onto the laser and dull/blur the dot.  A quick wipe and your good to go.

Final note: put CT grips and a Surefire X200 light on your nightstand gun and you have a very nice package.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I immediately saw the potential for lasers on a defensive handgun, but what pushed me over the edge was the night shooting portion of a Ken Hackathorn class a few years ago.  Once you have hit an 8&#8243; steel plate during a &#8220;walk back&#8221; drill at night, you won&#8217;t need any more convincing.  Period.  End of discussion.</p>
<p>Yes, they have a significant training advantage during dry firing practice (best and cheapest practice, by the way), but once you fire 5-10 rounds weak-hand, well, there isn&#8217;t enough Kool-Aid to be had.  Skip the pitcher and line up for the keg.  When it comes to a life and death matter, there is no such thing as a fair fight and the laser tips the scale in your favor.</p>
<p>Now, you can still muff-up your shots (press the trigger straight back) but in close quarters, the little red dot is ridiculously fast on the target.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Crimson Trace bigot and I have a set on mine, and my wife&#8217;s handguns (10 pair on 1911s, Glocks, Sigs, and S&amp;W).  CT grips are easy to install, maintain, and use.  The only thing you have to do if you have a long shooting session with oil/lubrication on your slide (1911 shooters take note), you will need to use the Q-Tip that CT provides in the box.  The oil will &#8220;fly&#8221; onto the laser and dull/blur the dot.  A quick wipe and your good to go.</p>
<p>Final note: put CT grips and a Surefire X200 light on your nightstand gun and you have a very nice package.</p>
<p>W</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my laser grip for my xd purely to help me in self-defense situations, since both I and the bad guy knows where the bullet is going to go when I press the trigger.  Did not know about using it as a shooting aid, however.  Good information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my laser grip for my xd purely to help me in self-defense situations, since both I and the bad guy knows where the bullet is going to go when I press the trigger.  Did not know about using it as a shooting aid, however.  Good information.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all honesty?

LaserMax&#039;s guide rods are hell-for-stout. My only beefs with them are that they require a separate button to activate, and that requires a fine motor skill.

Their UNI rail-mount laser, on the other hand, did not give me warm and fuzzy feelings in the &quot;sturdy&quot; department. The idea seemed good, but the execution felt shoddy.</description>
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<p>LaserMax&#8217;s guide rods are hell-for-stout. My only beefs with them are that they require a separate button to activate, and that requires a fine motor skill.</p>
<p>Their UNI rail-mount laser, on the other hand, did not give me warm and fuzzy feelings in the &#8220;sturdy&#8221; department. The idea seemed good, but the execution felt shoddy.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue with lasermax is that you need the activation strip or to manually turn it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with lasermax is that you need the activation strip or to manually turn it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CrimsonTrace does not make a laser grip option for my firearm (Ruger P-345).  However, my Ruger does have a rail.  So I am contemplating getting the LaserMax LMS UNI

Anyone have experience with either this unit or manufacturer?
http://www.lasermax.com/product.php?id=104</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CrimsonTrace does not make a laser grip option for my firearm (Ruger P-345).  However, my Ruger does have a rail.  So I am contemplating getting the LaserMax LMS UNI</p>
<p>Anyone have experience with either this unit or manufacturer?<br />
<a href="http://www.lasermax.com/product.php?id=104" rel="nofollow">http://www.lasermax.com/product.php?id=104</a></p>
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