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		<title>By: JayF</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205802</link>
		<dc:creator>JayF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most honest gun magazine review I ever read was in the NRA’s American Rifleman magazine. It went something like this: “Upon examining the Snakecharmer shotgun, we noticed that the firing pin protruded slightly from the breech face. We inserted a 410 shell with powder and shot removed and rapped the hammer with a mallet, which resulted in discharge of the primer. At that point, testing and evaluation of the Snakecharmer was discontinued.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most honest gun magazine review I ever read was in the NRA’s American Rifleman magazine. It went something like this: “Upon examining the Snakecharmer shotgun, we noticed that the firing pin protruded slightly from the breech face. We inserted a 410 shell with powder and shot removed and rapped the hammer with a mallet, which resulted in discharge of the primer. At that point, testing and evaluation of the Snakecharmer was discontinued.”</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205799</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What excites me the most is that I live in NC. I am about 4 hours from Blackwater and only about a hour from where Para is moving their HQ to. I am involved in the shooting sports, so I am eagerly hoping that Para will reach out to the members of the community in their new home state. I would love to see Para sponsored events here, we are seriously lacking things like that on the west end of the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What excites me the most is that I live in NC. I am about 4 hours from Blackwater and only about a hour from where Para is moving their HQ to. I am involved in the shooting sports, so I am eagerly hoping that Para will reach out to the members of the community in their new home state. I would love to see Para sponsored events here, we are seriously lacking things like that on the west end of the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205788</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenicks: exactly.  Box&#039;o&#039;truth is a great example of what makes the internet a &quot;better&quot; source of good gun info than the big-name magazines.  It isn&#039;t that everything on the internet is &quot;good info&quot;... in fact, just the opposite.  But the internet automatically vets BSers from the real smart folks.  A reasonable human being can also condense knowledge from a dozen websites to come up with a good idea of what reality actually is.  That&#039;s the point of this whole &quot;new media&quot; thing.  Its hard to quantify or metric, but it is the future whether some companies like that or not.

Here&#039;s to a gun company having balls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenicks: exactly.  Box&#8217;o'truth is a great example of what makes the internet a &#8220;better&#8221; source of good gun info than the big-name magazines.  It isn&#8217;t that everything on the internet is &#8220;good info&#8221;&#8230; in fact, just the opposite.  But the internet automatically vets BSers from the real smart folks.  A reasonable human being can also condense knowledge from a dozen websites to come up with a good idea of what reality actually is.  That&#8217;s the point of this whole &#8220;new media&#8221; thing.  Its hard to quantify or metric, but it is the future whether some companies like that or not.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to a gun company having balls!</p>
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		<title>By: drstrangegun</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205783</link>
		<dc:creator>drstrangegun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gun mags: I was reading in this month&#039;s american rifleman about the XDM, and a fellow editor essentially equated the glock striker action and the springfield striker action. 

Someone&#039;s never futzed around with a glock with the slide off before. So easy to check too, sometimes I&#039;m shocked stuff like that makes it to print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun mags: I was reading in this month&#8217;s american rifleman about the XDM, and a fellow editor essentially equated the glock striker action and the springfield striker action. </p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s never futzed around with a glock with the slide off before. So easy to check too, sometimes I&#8217;m shocked stuff like that makes it to print.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenicks</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205776</link>
		<dc:creator>Phenicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;retro Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 11:45 am

When I want honest, non-biased, and accurate reporting on guns, I pick up a copy of Gun Tests magazine. They don’t accept ads from gun makers, so they owe them nothing, which is clearly reflected in their reviews.

I’ve seen them rip into poor design features like no other magazine can or will.&quot;

I&#039;ve read several Gun Tests magazines and canceled my subscription.  The writing is poor, many of the &quot;tests&quot; are pure assumption and are not repeatable.  I love the article on &quot;affordable side-by-sides&quot; only to see that they are talking about shotguns in the $2-3K arena.  Much more science and repeatability in testing is needed in gun reviews.  Theboxotruth.com ammo testing at least uses the same setup at the same distances for testing.  It&#039;s not white glove science, but it gives you needed usable info., unlike most glowing Gun mags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;retro Says:<br />
August 27th, 2008 at 11:45 am</p>
<p>When I want honest, non-biased, and accurate reporting on guns, I pick up a copy of Gun Tests magazine. They don’t accept ads from gun makers, so they owe them nothing, which is clearly reflected in their reviews.</p>
<p>I’ve seen them rip into poor design features like no other magazine can or will.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read several Gun Tests magazines and canceled my subscription.  The writing is poor, many of the &#8220;tests&#8221; are pure assumption and are not repeatable.  I love the article on &#8220;affordable side-by-sides&#8221; only to see that they are talking about shotguns in the $2-3K arena.  Much more science and repeatability in testing is needed in gun reviews.  Theboxotruth.com ammo testing at least uses the same setup at the same distances for testing.  It&#8217;s not white glove science, but it gives you needed usable info., unlike most glowing Gun mags.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, &lt;i&gt;SWAT Magazine&lt;/i&gt; famously lost Benelli as an advertiser after Louis Awerbuck panned the M4...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, <i>SWAT Magazine</i> famously lost Benelli as an advertiser after Louis Awerbuck panned the M4&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is that I occasionally read articles by guys in &lt;i&gt;Gun Tests Magazine&lt;/i&gt; who don&#039;t have the technical knowledge to accurately assess a Super Soaker.

That, and they frequently confuse &quot;Cheaper&quot; and &quot;Better&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is that I occasionally read articles by guys in <i>Gun Tests Magazine</i> who don&#8217;t have the technical knowledge to accurately assess a Super Soaker.</p>
<p>That, and they frequently confuse &#8220;Cheaper&#8221; and &#8220;Better&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: retro</title>
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		<dc:creator>retro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I want honest, non-biased, and accurate reporting on guns, I pick up a copy of Gun Tests magazine.  They don&#039;t accept ads from gun makers, so they owe them nothing, which is clearly reflected in their reviews.

I&#039;ve seen them rip into poor design features like no other magazine can or will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I want honest, non-biased, and accurate reporting on guns, I pick up a copy of Gun Tests magazine.  They don&#8217;t accept ads from gun makers, so they owe them nothing, which is clearly reflected in their reviews.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen them rip into poor design features like no other magazine can or will.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahab</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually talked about the potential for effectiveness for this last night on the show as well - Para is making what I see to be a pretty smart play by reaching out to the gun blogging community.

If you think about it, where do most semi-functional people go for actual information these days?  The Internet, and usual to The Googles.  If you do a google search for Para LTC 9mm, my review of it at Gun Nuts Radio Blog and Tam&#039;s review are both near the top on the second page of results.  If you do a different google search for International Cartridge Corporation, Sebastian&#039;s review is the 4 result on the front page.

In addition to the above, Para is now presenting their product to the shooting community equivalent of &quot;super-users&quot;, people who don&#039;t just buy a gun and leave in the sock drawer, but people who buy lots of guns, lots of BBs (thanks Todd), load their own ammo, buy lots of gear, etc.

And finally, there&#039;s the &quot;street cred&quot; issue - which Para now has in spades.  They took 11 people from a demographic that is notorious for doing whatever the hell it wants, and said &quot;here are our guns, do your worst&quot;.  Para does have balls to do something like this, and I think that long term payoff for them, Blackhawk, and ICC will actually be pretty impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually talked about the potential for effectiveness for this last night on the show as well &#8211; Para is making what I see to be a pretty smart play by reaching out to the gun blogging community.</p>
<p>If you think about it, where do most semi-functional people go for actual information these days?  The Internet, and usual to The Googles.  If you do a google search for Para LTC 9mm, my review of it at Gun Nuts Radio Blog and Tam&#8217;s review are both near the top on the second page of results.  If you do a different google search for International Cartridge Corporation, Sebastian&#8217;s review is the 4 result on the front page.</p>
<p>In addition to the above, Para is now presenting their product to the shooting community equivalent of &#8220;super-users&#8221;, people who don&#8217;t just buy a gun and leave in the sock drawer, but people who buy lots of guns, lots of BBs (thanks Todd), load their own ammo, buy lots of gear, etc.</p>
<p>And finally, there&#8217;s the &#8220;street cred&#8221; issue &#8211; which Para now has in spades.  They took 11 people from a demographic that is notorious for doing whatever the hell it wants, and said &#8220;here are our guns, do your worst&#8221;.  Para does have balls to do something like this, and I think that long term payoff for them, Blackhawk, and ICC will actually be pretty impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205761</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Para is selling them to us at cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Para is selling them to us at cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205760</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guns are discounted to a price that makes Dianne Feinstein crap her Depends™.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guns are discounted to a price that makes Dianne Feinstein crap her Depends™.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who want to buy the gun are buying them. The are discounted a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who want to buy the gun are buying them. The are discounted a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: DJK</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/08/27/gun-blog-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-205755</link>
		<dc:creator>DJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they actually making you pay for the guns, or just the FFL transfers?   It seems to me that after all the other expense they should just throw the gun in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they actually making you pay for the guns, or just the FFL transfers?   It seems to me that after all the other expense they should just throw the gun in.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point about Gun Magazines is key.  Consumer Reports entire brand has been built on credibility (whether that&#039;s entirely deserved is besides the point, to a Marketing/Branding discussion).

This day and age, honesty and freshness stands out.  Easiest way to do this is precisely what Para did.

And from a purely marketing-focused view, it really focused the budget on a well-qualified demographic.  This should be a Harvard Business Review case study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point about Gun Magazines is key.  Consumer Reports entire brand has been built on credibility (whether that&#8217;s entirely deserved is besides the point, to a Marketing/Branding discussion).</p>
<p>This day and age, honesty and freshness stands out.  Easiest way to do this is precisely what Para did.</p>
<p>And from a purely marketing-focused view, it really focused the budget on a well-qualified demographic.  This should be a Harvard Business Review case study.</p>
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