I asked my Dad, how do you deal with groundhogs? He said, “12-gauge.” I said, “What part of I live on Long Island did you not understand?”

And yes, I’ve asked on my street. Neighbors would freak if I discharged a 12 gauge on a groundhog.

Again, going the trust route helps you avoid a metric ton of retards.

That is just scary. I mean, it’s scary how dangerously retarded some people are, who hold positions of authority.

But I guess he had a legitimate concern– you could have thrown the cartridge at him, potentially bruising him, especially if it had the mass of all those keys with it. It reminds me of kids being expelled from school for drawing pictures of guns, or airline security harassing passengers because of the photos on the covers of books. The depths of insanity have no bounds.

Also; It is my understanding that corporations can purchase NFA weapons with less hassle too. It goes way back to the days of the labor riots. Some businesses kept Thompsons on hand for “labor relations” prior to the Act’s passage in 1934. I guess today we’d call it “Human Resources Management”. Yes ladies, it was understood in the ’30s that submachineguns were a part of running a business.

my reply “you sir are the one with the .357 on your hip, i sure hope you know what a real bullet looks like”

he then informed me that he was going to have to hold onto my keys… idiot

The info will pop up.

I too would be interested in more info on this trust deal.

I said, “No. This is an NFA weapons transfer.”

He then got real, real quiet, and did an internal, “Oooh, I don’t know what this is, but it must be something pretty hard-core. I’d better shut up.”

He had no idea what “NFA weapons transfer” meant. Nor do the vast majority of Americans.

Robert; 50 BMG rifles do not fall under the NFA. That is unless they are full auto or have barrels of less than 16″.

It’s expensive and complex to go through this process because THEY don’t ever have to do it.

–it’s too much of a hassle

–sticky-fingered public servants might be tempted

–OMG we could get robbed!

–it’s not their policy…

three times; if they were really sharing data electronically, you’d think once would’ve sufficed.

We are talking the same federal government that asks for your name, date of birth, and SSN on everything.

When it’s only going to take your time, there’s absolutely no incentive for someone to search through the database.

And, actually, “Dad” – he’s probably still too young “to ask ol DAD”.

I’m keeping it quiet.

Heh.

Yeah, it’s just between you and the ATF.

It’s good to know that you have been printed and are “in the system” – just in case you ever get amnesia or something.

They key in all my info and electronically scan my prints and no doubt save copies for their use, in addition to sending that info to every .gov agency in the world.

judging by my experience, it’s more likely they’ll immediately misplace them, never to be found again.

going through the INS, i was printed at least three times that i can remember — once or twice might have slipped my memory, the whole process took so long. always on those fancy hacked-up scanner/photocopier machines. three times; if they were really sharing data electronically, you’d think once would’ve sufficed.

i couldn’t just run downtown to get printed, either. each of those times was a day-trip downstate, for me.

what are you buying?

I’m keeping it quiet.

Heh.

Doing the form 4 to a revocable living trust gets rid of the requirement that you ask Miss Cleo for permission to own a suppressor. It also gets rid of the requirement for fingerprints. It also takes less time for the paperwork to come back from the ATF.