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		<title>By: Phil Stanhope</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204411</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Stanhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mother Jones article just proves what I long have thought: Forget James Bond -- unassuming middle-aged women make the very best spies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mother Jones article just proves what I long have thought: Forget James Bond &#8212; unassuming middle-aged women make the very best spies.</p>
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		<title>By: DirtCrashr</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204399</link>
		<dc:creator>DirtCrashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHHH!  Don&#039;t tell anybody about Josh Sugarmann!!  Mother Jones is published out West here in the City by the Bay, and the Pony Express is slow to arrive.  SHHH!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHHH!  Don&#8217;t tell anybody about Josh Sugarmann!!  Mother Jones is published out West here in the City by the Bay, and the Pony Express is slow to arrive.  SHHH!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204341</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revealing the mole has panicked the anti-gun crusaders into fearing that other moles might have been or still are active amongst them.

Well I guess the jig is up then.  Josh Sugarmann of the VPC has been one of our agent provocateurs for some time.  After all the split between the VPC and the Brady&#039;s in 2004 over strategy to renew the AW ban was very helpful to us in defeating that ban.

So from all your friends in the gun-rights movement, you&#039;ve done the cause great service Josh.  I guess it&#039;s finally time for you to come in from the cold and put that FFL of yours to greater use.  (I can&#039;t believe they bought the story that your FFL was for &quot;research&quot;!  Those anti-gun folks are so gullible)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revealing the mole has panicked the anti-gun crusaders into fearing that other moles might have been or still are active amongst them.</p>
<p>Well I guess the jig is up then.  Josh Sugarmann of the VPC has been one of our agent provocateurs for some time.  After all the split between the VPC and the Brady&#8217;s in 2004 over strategy to renew the AW ban was very helpful to us in defeating that ban.</p>
<p>So from all your friends in the gun-rights movement, you&#8217;ve done the cause great service Josh.  I guess it&#8217;s finally time for you to come in from the cold and put that FFL of yours to greater use.  (I can&#8217;t believe they bought the story that your FFL was for &#8220;research&#8221;!  Those anti-gun folks are so gullible)</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian-PGP</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204330</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian-PGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah my webhost was having a database issue...restored.  What a PITA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah my webhost was having a database issue&#8230;restored.  What a PITA.</p>
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		<title>By: wizardpc</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204294</link>
		<dc:creator>wizardpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus anti-gun moles are real easy to pick out at the range. They&#039;re the ones that react with abject horror when someone pulls out a class III.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus anti-gun moles are real easy to pick out at the range. They&#8217;re the ones that react with abject horror when someone pulls out a class III.</p>
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
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		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm

Maybe this explains why Bill Haslam refuses to discuss his membership in Mayors Against Guns. 

It certainly makes more sense than being abigoted gun banning mayor from E. Tennessee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm</p>
<p>Maybe this explains why Bill Haslam refuses to discuss his membership in Mayors Against Guns. </p>
<p>It certainly makes more sense than being abigoted gun banning mayor from E. Tennessee.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204287</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, in the past they haven&#039;t needed moles.  They have guys like Richard Feldman, who get pissed at NRA, and write tell all books.  Then there are the Bob Rickers of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, in the past they haven&#8217;t needed moles.  They have guys like Richard Feldman, who get pissed at NRA, and write tell all books.  Then there are the Bob Rickers of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, BWM, it would be much harder to do to NRA, because board members are elected my membership.  To even get on the ballot, you have to get past the nominating committee, or get 250 life or voting non-life members to sign a petition to get you on the ballot.  After that, you have to have enough achievements to get at least 40,000 NRA members to vote for you.  The circles of trust on our side of the movement are much wider, and even then, the left hand doesn&#039;t often know what the right hand is up to.

The reason they got burnt on this is because they have very little or not real grass roots.  So all it takes to get into their inner circles is getting a few people to trust you.  I would not unequivocally say this could never happen to NRA, but it would be much harder, and would require a much more talented mole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, BWM, it would be much harder to do to NRA, because board members are elected my membership.  To even get on the ballot, you have to get past the nominating committee, or get 250 life or voting non-life members to sign a petition to get you on the ballot.  After that, you have to have enough achievements to get at least 40,000 NRA members to vote for you.  The circles of trust on our side of the movement are much wider, and even then, the left hand doesn&#8217;t often know what the right hand is up to.</p>
<p>The reason they got burnt on this is because they have very little or not real grass roots.  So all it takes to get into their inner circles is getting a few people to trust you.  I would not unequivocally say this could never happen to NRA, but it would be much harder, and would require a much more talented mole.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Sebastian-PGP, seems your blog&#039;s down with some wordpress flu. did you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Sebastian-PGP, seems your blog&#8217;s down with some wordpress flu. did you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204284</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the one hand, i can see why &lt;i&gt;Mother Jones&lt;/i&gt; magazine would be upset. shades of COINTELPRO privatized and warmed up.

on the other hand, if her self-description of &quot;research consultant&quot; is anywhere near realistic, she certainly went remarkably far in her &quot;research&quot;. i can think of some reasons why that might be, but they&#039;re all pretty damn hypothetical, so not much point speculating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the one hand, i can see why <i>Mother Jones</i> magazine would be upset. shades of COINTELPRO privatized and warmed up.</p>
<p>on the other hand, if her self-description of &#8220;research consultant&#8221; is anywhere near realistic, she certainly went remarkably far in her &#8220;research&#8221;. i can think of some reasons why that might be, but they&#8217;re all pretty damn hypothetical, so not much point speculating.</p>
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		<title>By: bwm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the reverse could never happen.

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the reverse could never happen.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian-PGP</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/30/pwned/comment-page-1/#comment-204276</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian-PGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  Saw that over at Washington Monthly, was going to blog it but my shitty webhost is taking a dump again.

What I was gonna say is...so what?  The antis over there have their panties in a knot, but really...what damage could we possibly have done?

It&#039;s like...&quot;gasp!  they&#039;re trying to ban guns!&quot;  You don&#039;t need a mole to figger that one out, Holmes :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  Saw that over at Washington Monthly, was going to blog it but my shitty webhost is taking a dump again.</p>
<p>What I was gonna say is&#8230;so what?  The antis over there have their panties in a knot, but really&#8230;what damage could we possibly have done?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like&#8230;&#8221;gasp!  they&#8217;re trying to ban guns!&#8221;  You don&#8217;t need a mole to figger that one out, Holmes <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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