I’ve mentioned this before, and I don’t know if it will hold for every state with those draconian laws, but most renters and homeowners insurance policies state that they will defend and pay civil damages (which could be hundreds of thousands of dollars), up to the limit, with defense costs covered fully to go above the limit of insurance. Now if a law imposed civil liability due to ‘bodily injury’ because your weapon was stolen, I imagine that would be a trigger for defense at the least, and a trigger of liability coverage as well. Example:

4 elements of negligence:
Duty owed to plaintiff due to laws (i.e. you negligenty stored a firearm which was used in the commission of an assault which caused ‘bodily injury’)
Duty defined under law was broken
Plaintiff sustained actual ‘bodily injury’
Damages suffered were causally inflicted by defendant (very broad here)

So under the senario described, I believe your renters/HO policy would have a duty to defend you, plus pay for any civil damages imposed, and have to replace your stolen gun.

Keep paying those premiums folks

Bullshit!

Bullshit, bullshit, and double bullshit.

Your “failing” is no different than it would be if your computer or stereo system was stolen. There is a victim who deserves compensation, and there is a perpetrator who deserves punishment. Don’t get all confused about a cut-and-dried situation. The only reason we’re discussing this in this way is because gun rights have been under attack for so long we’re unable to even imagine a situation without bigotry, and a life under actual liberty.

Do not accept the stupid, insane, bigoted premises of the enemy. If you do, you’re playing by their/i> rules and on their turf. Fuck that!

Even if it doesn’t get you anywhere, call the contractor with their invoice number and date, and get names, then tell the police about them.

And claymores. Definitely more claymores…

Sure they could get it off with a prybar, but they’ll only have a few minutes unless they are real lucky (on average the police are at my house in 2 minutes from the time my alarm goes off).

Of course, I store the paperwork on it somewhere else.

My rifle safe is in my garage (also alarmed) and it is bolted not only to the wall, but also the floor. You’d need more than a three foot pry bar to get it lose.

My neighbor had a .22 revolver stolen out of his attic by the crew doing his roofing work. Calling the contractor will get you nothing. And yes, they hire the scum of the earth. Tweakers, illegals, deadbeats, felons, the works.

It happens.

Storing the slide/bolt separate from the firearm(s) is another good idea. That way the thief has to search in order to actually steal a working firearm.

Lesson learned: if you DO use a small gun safe, find a way to secure it to something big, heavy and solid.

As for home defense, I got a quick opening safe from Gun Vault that I can open in the dark in about 1 second. I have yet to meet a person who can get into my yard without waking the dogs (who will wake me), much less get into my house, so I get more than a second or two or warning. Granted everyone has a different situation, but a little bit of thought and creativity will yield an affordable solution that allows a person to secure their firearms (when not in use or at hand) while leaving them available for use in an emergency.

Just buy yourself a nice safe and lock up everything but your home defense and carry weapons.

The biggest problem with the gun control people, in my mind, is they have created an atmosphere where we are responsible for some one elses lack of self control.

I guess the next time I punch one in the face the arguement the devil made me do it will be a valid defense.

How could you access your firearm hastily in an emergency if it’s locked up? Please, he is definitely not part of the problem.

And a new gun safe, with next week’s paycheck.