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		<title>By: Lysander</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203362</link>
		<dc:creator>Lysander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard - 

More recent as of this week I believe.  Or, at least that seemed to be what Mr. Gura said - that the original, 2002, attempt to register was with the revolver, and the post-Decision attempt to register was with a semi-auto.

If I didn&#039;t know better, I&#039;d say that was the start of Heller II. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard &#8211; </p>
<p>More recent as of this week I believe.  Or, at least that seemed to be what Mr. Gura said &#8211; that the original, 2002, attempt to register was with the revolver, and the post-Decision attempt to register was with a semi-auto.</p>
<p>If I didn&#8217;t know better, I&#8217;d say that was the start of Heller II. <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203320</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The more recent firearm for registration was a semi-automatic of unmentioned provenance or caliber.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;More recent&quot; as of when? Today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The more recent firearm for registration was a semi-automatic of unmentioned provenance or caliber.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;More recent&#8221; as of when? Today?</p>
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		<title>By: Lysander</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203319</link>
		<dc:creator>Lysander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Mr. Gura was at the VCDL meeting, and mentioned this:

The ORIGINAL firearm for registration was the High Standard Buntline.

The more recent firearm for registration was a semi-automatic of unmentioned provenance or caliber.

No comment as to future litigation. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Mr. Gura was at the VCDL meeting, and mentioned this:</p>
<p>The ORIGINAL firearm for registration was the High Standard Buntline.</p>
<p>The more recent firearm for registration was a semi-automatic of unmentioned provenance or caliber.</p>
<p>No comment as to future litigation. <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203318</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, almost forgot!

Say Uncle is now #4 for &lt;i&gt;high standard buntline&lt;/i&gt;. 

What did that take, a few hours?

He&#039;s got that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Google%20Juice&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Juice&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, almost forgot!</p>
<p>Say Uncle is now #4 for <i>high standard buntline</i>. </p>
<p>What did that take, a few hours?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got that <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Google%20Juice" rel="nofollow">Google Juice</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203317</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Standard Mischief: no, the last one is definitely a DA, it or a very slight variation is what my father used to teach us how to shoot a pistol.

A variation of the first revolver in the photos is probably it, look at the trigger. No way is that a DA trigger, no room to pull it back to cock the hammer.

My GoogleFu wasn’t up to finding a “High Standard Buntline”, but it could be so old it might not be on-line in a searchable way. I just talked to my father about the above mentioned HS DA: he bought it 50 years ago, but he couldn’t remember if there was a HS SA available at the time (he wouldn’t have been interested in one).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Buntline, in a firearms sense at least seems to be referring to a long barrel on a firearm. It&#039;s also the name of the knot. Once I found the application, with that listed as the model type, it initially threw me off. But in the end, it was no real match to my flying dragon style of google-fu and I discovered it to be tangential to the main story. The pictures were to pique the interest of Uncle&#039;s many readers, perhaps someone else has a piece of the story. 

There is no match of &quot;buntline&quot; over at highstandard.com, at least in the parts that google is allowed to crawl. 

A search of &lt;i&gt;high standard buntline&lt;/i&gt; on gunbroker.com returned nothing, but searching for &lt;i&gt;buntline&lt;/i&gt; itself turns up plenty to look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Standard Mischief: no, the last one is definitely a DA, it or a very slight variation is what my father used to teach us how to shoot a pistol.</p>
<p>A variation of the first revolver in the photos is probably it, look at the trigger. No way is that a DA trigger, no room to pull it back to cock the hammer.</p>
<p>My GoogleFu wasn’t up to finding a “High Standard Buntline”, but it could be so old it might not be on-line in a searchable way. I just talked to my father about the above mentioned HS DA: he bought it 50 years ago, but he couldn’t remember if there was a HS SA available at the time (he wouldn’t have been interested in one).</p></blockquote>
<p>Buntline, in a firearms sense at least seems to be referring to a long barrel on a firearm. It&#8217;s also the name of the knot. Once I found the application, with that listed as the model type, it initially threw me off. But in the end, it was no real match to my flying dragon style of google-fu and I discovered it to be tangential to the main story. The pictures were to pique the interest of Uncle&#8217;s many readers, perhaps someone else has a piece of the story. </p>
<p>There is no match of &#8220;buntline&#8221; over at highstandard.com, at least in the parts that google is allowed to crawl. </p>
<p>A search of <i>high standard buntline</i> on gunbroker.com returned nothing, but searching for <i>buntline</i> itself turns up plenty to look at.</p>
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		<title>By: HardCorps</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203314</link>
		<dc:creator>HardCorps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 SA...</description>
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		<title>By: straightarrow</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203309</link>
		<dc:creator>straightarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The larger issue, not just in DC, but across the land will ultimately be settled by force.  I hope we are of stern enough stuff to apply the most of it, for as we have seen  these people are never going to be bound by the law nor held accountable to it.

That doesn&#039;t leave but two options.  Surrender and slavery, or fight to victory or death.

Sorry, people. No matter what any court says these sociopathic sonsofbitches are going to do exactly what they want to do until they are physically  stopped.

Harold&#039;s comment is worthy of great deal of respect. It clarifies why only force will settle this. Because they will use force to disobey the law and the courts and punish anyone who resists them in even the mildest way or just asks them to obey the law. .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The larger issue, not just in DC, but across the land will ultimately be settled by force.  I hope we are of stern enough stuff to apply the most of it, for as we have seen  these people are never going to be bound by the law nor held accountable to it.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t leave but two options.  Surrender and slavery, or fight to victory or death.</p>
<p>Sorry, people. No matter what any court says these sociopathic sonsofbitches are going to do exactly what they want to do until they are physically  stopped.</p>
<p>Harold&#8217;s comment is worthy of great deal of respect. It clarifies why only force will settle this. Because they will use force to disobey the law and the courts and punish anyone who resists them in even the mildest way or just asks them to obey the law. .</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Poulson</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203308</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Poulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, The Beretta reference goes back to Emerson, here&#039;s the appellant&#039;s brief in the DC circuit case:
http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/documents/appellantsbrief.pdf

&quot;To the extent such questions were raised in Emerson, the Fifth Circuit had
no difficulty disposing of them in a footnote. Concerned primarily with the
question of whether the Second Amendment conferred an individual or
“collective” right, the Miller analysis of the handgun in Emerson merited only the
following observation:
There is no contention here that the Beretta pistol possessed is a kind or
type of weapon that is neither “any part of the ordinary military equipment”
nor such “that its use could contribute to the common defense” within the
language of Miller (nor that it is otherwise within the kind or type of
weapon embraced in the government&#039;s second Miller argument, e.g.,
“weapons which can have no legitimate use in the hands of private
individuals” so as to be categorically excluded from the scope of the Second
Amendment under Miller&#039;s holding).
Emerson, 270 F.3d at 227 n.22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, The Beretta reference goes back to Emerson, here&#8217;s the appellant&#8217;s brief in the DC circuit case:<br />
<a href="http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/documents/appellantsbrief.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/documents/appellantsbrief.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;To the extent such questions were raised in Emerson, the Fifth Circuit had<br />
no difficulty disposing of them in a footnote. Concerned primarily with the<br />
question of whether the Second Amendment conferred an individual or<br />
“collective” right, the Miller analysis of the handgun in Emerson merited only the<br />
following observation:<br />
There is no contention here that the Beretta pistol possessed is a kind or<br />
type of weapon that is neither “any part of the ordinary military equipment”<br />
nor such “that its use could contribute to the common defense” within the<br />
language of Miller (nor that it is otherwise within the kind or type of<br />
weapon embraced in the government&#8217;s second Miller argument, e.g.,<br />
“weapons which can have no legitimate use in the hands of private<br />
individuals” so as to be categorically excluded from the scope of the Second<br />
Amendment under Miller&#8217;s holding).<br />
Emerson, 270 F.3d at 227 n.22.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Poulson</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203306</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Poulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I got the Beretta meme from Parker v. DC, page 51: http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200703/04-7041a.pdf where Judge Silberman wrote, &quot;178. However, the Court also observed that militiamen were expected to bring their private arms with them when called up
for service. Those weapons would be “of the kind in common use at the time.” Id. at 179. There can be no question that most handguns (those in common use) fit that description then and now. See Emerson, 270 F.3d at 227 n.22 (assuming that a Beretta pistol passed the Miller test).&quot;

Still, I recall reading somewhere else that Heller wanted to register a Beretta 92, I&#039;m still looking for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I got the Beretta meme from Parker v. DC, page 51: <a href="http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200703/04-7041a.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200703/04-7041a.pdf</a> where Judge Silberman wrote, &#8220;178. However, the Court also observed that militiamen were expected to bring their private arms with them when called up<br />
for service. Those weapons would be “of the kind in common use at the time.” Id. at 179. There can be no question that most handguns (those in common use) fit that description then and now. See Emerson, 270 F.3d at 227 n.22 (assuming that a Beretta pistol passed the Miller test).&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, I recall reading somewhere else that Heller wanted to register a Beretta 92, I&#8217;m still looking for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the defendant go to jail if he does not allow ballistic testing?

If yes, then said evidence is not admissable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the defendant go to jail if he does not allow ballistic testing?</p>
<p>If yes, then said evidence is not admissable.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even better:

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071700621.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Washington Post article&lt;/a&gt; on today&#039;s festivities (which say Mr. Heller was denied because he didn&#039;t show up with his gun): 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ballistics examiners will compare the test-fired bullets to bullets from unsolved shootings to determine if a revolver was used in a crime.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt;AH HA!&lt;/b&gt;

More mischief.  We&#039;ve learned from a previous study that the above will result in a lot of false positives, and it&#039;s a subjective &quot;expert witness&quot; judgement. More opportunities to throw innocent civilians in jail, for serious felonies.

I&#039;ll bet at some point they&#039;ll make an example of someone to discourage anyone from even trying, and this testing strikes me as something that will be hard to challenge under Heller.

Would the possibility of a Murder 1 charge and a six figure legal bill to win acquittal be enough to keep you from trying?

They are more clever than I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even better:</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071700621.html" rel="nofollow">The Washington Post article</a> on today&#8217;s festivities (which say Mr. Heller was denied because he didn&#8217;t show up with his gun): </p>
<blockquote><p>Ballistics examiners will compare the test-fired bullets to bullets from unsolved shootings to determine if a revolver was used in a crime.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>AH HA!</b></p>
<p>More mischief.  We&#8217;ve learned from a previous study that the above will result in a lot of false positives, and it&#8217;s a subjective &#8220;expert witness&#8221; judgement. More opportunities to throw innocent civilians in jail, for serious felonies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet at some point they&#8217;ll make an example of someone to discourage anyone from even trying, and this testing strikes me as something that will be hard to challenge under Heller.</p>
<p>Would the possibility of a Murder 1 charge and a six figure legal bill to win acquittal be enough to keep you from trying?</p>
<p>They are more clever than I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiftycal</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203296</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiftycal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it gets better than that;
Newsham said if anyone shows up to register a semi-automatic pistol that fits the city&#039;s definition of a machine gun, police will confiscate the illegal gun but will not immediately arrest the owner. He said police reserve the right to investigate and eventually charge such an owner with violating the machine-gun ban. 

Von Breichenruchardt called the semi-automatic handgun ban &quot;foolishness&quot; and said it almost certainly will be challenged in court. &quot;The Supreme Court has given its ruling,&quot; he said. &quot;Mr. Fenty and the city council are not above the constitution of the United States. They have to follow the law, the same as all of us.&quot; 

from WA Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it gets better than that;<br />
Newsham said if anyone shows up to register a semi-automatic pistol that fits the city&#8217;s definition of a machine gun, police will confiscate the illegal gun but will not immediately arrest the owner. He said police reserve the right to investigate and eventually charge such an owner with violating the machine-gun ban. </p>
<p>Von Breichenruchardt called the semi-automatic handgun ban &#8220;foolishness&#8221; and said it almost certainly will be challenged in court. &#8220;The Supreme Court has given its ruling,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Mr. Fenty and the city council are not above the constitution of the United States. They have to follow the law, the same as all of us.&#8221; </p>
<p>from WA Post.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops: a large frame ... .22LR Single *Action*, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops: a large frame &#8230; .22LR Single *Action*, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard Mischief: no, the last one is definitely a DA, it or a very slight variation is what my father used to teach us how to shoot a pistol.

A variation of the first revolver in the photos is probably it, look at the trigger.  No way is that a DA trigger, no room to pull it back to cock the hammer.

My GoogleFu wasn&#039;t up to finding a &quot;High Standard Buntline&quot;, but it could be so old it might not be on-line in a searchable way.  I just talked to my father about the above mentioned HS DA: he bought it 50 years ago, but he couldn&#039;t remember if there was a HS SA available at the time (he wouldn&#039;t have been interested in one).

SayUncle: exactly: a large frame (not tiny like the gun GHW Bush waived around in NH) .22LR single-shot is about as innocuous as you can get and still plausibly argue it&#039;s useful for self-defense.  Heller the case was very careful to keep things as narrow as possible, which we can see was a good idea.

And now we have a two front war, incorporation around the nation, and at the same time pushing the officially sanctioned boundaries on what&#039;s acceptable thanks to D.C. attitude.  

Yes, they&#039;re citing a law by the Congress from 1932 (probably inspired by the Bonus Army, wouldn&#039;t do to have angry citizens show up with  Thompsons or BARs)) and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s controlling in D.C., but their interpretation of it is highly questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard Mischief: no, the last one is definitely a DA, it or a very slight variation is what my father used to teach us how to shoot a pistol.</p>
<p>A variation of the first revolver in the photos is probably it, look at the trigger.  No way is that a DA trigger, no room to pull it back to cock the hammer.</p>
<p>My GoogleFu wasn&#8217;t up to finding a &#8220;High Standard Buntline&#8221;, but it could be so old it might not be on-line in a searchable way.  I just talked to my father about the above mentioned HS DA: he bought it 50 years ago, but he couldn&#8217;t remember if there was a HS SA available at the time (he wouldn&#8217;t have been interested in one).</p>
<p>SayUncle: exactly: a large frame (not tiny like the gun GHW Bush waived around in NH) .22LR single-shot is about as innocuous as you can get and still plausibly argue it&#8217;s useful for self-defense.  Heller the case was very careful to keep things as narrow as possible, which we can see was a good idea.</p>
<p>And now we have a two front war, incorporation around the nation, and at the same time pushing the officially sanctioned boundaries on what&#8217;s acceptable thanks to D.C. attitude.  </p>
<p>Yes, they&#8217;re citing a law by the Congress from 1932 (probably inspired by the Bonus Army, wouldn&#8217;t do to have angry citizens show up with  Thompsons or BARs)) and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s controlling in D.C., but their interpretation of it is highly questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sure it was so that he could have a weapon that complied with every DC law but the ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sure it was so that he could have a weapon that complied with every DC law but the ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Weer'd Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203289</link>
		<dc:creator>Weer'd Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A .22 Revolver for home defence???

Why would he do that if he had a .45 Semi-auto???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A .22 Revolver for home defence???</p>
<p>Why would he do that if he had a .45 Semi-auto???</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203268</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Standard Mischief wins the google-fu contest for the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Standard Mischief wins the google-fu contest for the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203266</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://armattweb.com/hs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xplodey view?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20americaine/high%20standard/a%20high%20standard%20gb.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
photos?&lt;/a&gt; (last two featured, scroll down)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://armattweb.com/hs/" rel="nofollow">xplodey view?</a><br />
<a href="http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20americaine/high%20standard/a%20high%20standard%20gb.htm" rel="nofollow"><br />
photos?</a> (last two featured, scroll down)</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203263</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope, he applied for a permit for his high standard buntline .22 revolver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope, he applied for a permit for his high standard buntline .22 revolver</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203262</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s likely that because his original application has personal info on it, his lawyers never published his application on their website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s likely that because his original application has personal info on it, his lawyers never published his application on their website</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203260</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/pleadings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oh, the page was renamed.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/documents/DickHellerDecl.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Here&#039;s Heller&#039;s pleading (PDF)&lt;/a&gt;

Exhibit A is at the first link and should include his actual application that was denied, but it&#039;s not scanned in. Still looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/pleadings.html" rel="nofollow">Oh, the page was renamed.</a><br />
<a href="http://www.gurapossessky.com/news/parker/documents/DickHellerDecl.pdf" rel="nofollow"><br />
Here&#8217;s Heller&#8217;s pleading (PDF)</a></p>
<p>Exhibit A is at the first link and should include his actual application that was denied, but it&#8217;s not scanned in. Still looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203258</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on, I&#039;ll find it. It was probably &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gurapossessky.com/parker_pleadings.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here,&lt;/a&gt; but no longer &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20070314142639/http://www.gurapossessky.com/parker_pleadings.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Archive.org&lt;/a&gt; only has this page, not every PDF.

Anyone else with leads? post &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on, I&#8217;ll find it. It was probably <a href="http://www.gurapossessky.com/parker_pleadings.htm" rel="nofollow">here,</a> but no longer <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070314142639/http://www.gurapossessky.com/parker_pleadings.htm" rel="nofollow">Archive.org</a> only has this page, not every PDF.</p>
<p>Anyone else with leads? post &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203255</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, gotcha.  i&#039;m not sure that was ever made known... although it clearly must have been either his .22 or his .45</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, gotcha.  i&#8217;m not sure that was ever made known&#8230; although it clearly must have been either his .22 or his .45</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203254</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he applied for a permit and was denied it hence why there was a case to begin with. the order says register his handgun, iirc. So, what was the original he tried to register?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he applied for a permit and was denied it hence why there was a case to begin with. the order says register his handgun, iirc. So, what was the original he tried to register?</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/17/heller-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-203253</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article I read only says he owns a .45 semi-auto and a .22 revolver.  Until he actually brings one or the other into DC, he can&#039;t &quot;try&quot; to register either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article I read only says he owns a .45 semi-auto and a .22 revolver.  Until he actually brings one or the other into DC, he can&#8217;t &#8220;try&#8221; to register either.</p>
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