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		<title>By: ATLien</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203322</link>
		<dc:creator>ATLien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, David, now we know whose side YOU would have been on in 1776. 

Hint: Not the winning side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, David, now we know whose side YOU would have been on in 1776. </p>
<p>Hint: Not the winning side.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote For David</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203242</link>
		<dc:creator>Vote For David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATLien: that&#039;s as bad an idea for a publicly expressed sentiment as one of my ex-co-workers who liked to joke about offing Hillary when she was still in the running.

Jokes are only funny until you are advocating armed overthrow of the gummint.  Then the only ones don&#039;t like you so much. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATLien: that&#8217;s as bad an idea for a publicly expressed sentiment as one of my ex-co-workers who liked to joke about offing Hillary when she was still in the running.</p>
<p>Jokes are only funny until you are advocating armed overthrow of the gummint.  Then the only ones don&#8217;t like you so much. </p>
<p>$0.02</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203240</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to NBC4, Heller was denied registration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to NBC4, Heller was denied registration&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ATLien</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203234</link>
		<dc:creator>ATLien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one good response: armed resistance. Or an invasion by another state to liberate DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one good response: armed resistance. Or an invasion by another state to liberate DC.</p>
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		<title>By: K-Romulus</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203232</link>
		<dc:creator>K-Romulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s no surprise. According to the Washington Post, THE BRADY CAMPAIGN had a hand in these &quot;Revamped&quot; gun laws.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071401332_pf.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;The rules announced yesterday bring the District closer to gun restrictions in cities such as Chicago, said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

&lt;strong&gt;His staff huddled with the District on the regulations&lt;/strong&gt;, but Helmke said it is uncertain which parts would withstand constitutional muster. Firearms may be banned, the majority opinion in the Heller case maintained, only if the weapons are &quot;unusual and dangerous.&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s not clear what that means,&quot; Helmke said. &quot;This is the problem with getting the courts involved. These are usually issues that are determined by elected officials.&quot;

Gun-rights advocates said after the ruling that they would immediately target other jurisdictions with similar laws, and those favoring gun control were encouraged by the acknowledgment that reasonable restrictions on guns are allowed.

The District is trying to determine where the line is, and it is trying to push it as far as it can go.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cities such as Chicago, THAT STILL HAVE HANDGUN BANS . . .DUH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s no surprise. According to the Washington Post, THE BRADY CAMPAIGN had a hand in these &#8220;Revamped&#8221; gun laws.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071401332_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071401332_pf.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The rules announced yesterday bring the District closer to gun restrictions in cities such as Chicago, said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.</p>
<p><strong>His staff huddled with the District on the regulations</strong>, but Helmke said it is uncertain which parts would withstand constitutional muster. Firearms may be banned, the majority opinion in the Heller case maintained, only if the weapons are &#8220;unusual and dangerous.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not clear what that means,&#8221; Helmke said. &#8220;This is the problem with getting the courts involved. These are usually issues that are determined by elected officials.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gun-rights advocates said after the ruling that they would immediately target other jurisdictions with similar laws, and those favoring gun control were encouraged by the acknowledgment that reasonable restrictions on guns are allowed.</p>
<p>The District is trying to determine where the line is, and it is trying to push it as far as it can go.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cities such as Chicago, THAT STILL HAVE HANDGUN BANS . . .DUH</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These folks are the exact equivalent to the worst civil-rights violators in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These folks are the exact equivalent to the worst civil-rights violators in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go in, fully rigged for audio tape with a group.  I&#039;d bring a recorder person as the decoy, unless the let him tape and record the process.
  When they refuse to be videoed, there&#039;s one suit.

  First guy tries to register a cheap 38 revolver.  If they won&#039;t let you leave the building with your own gun during THAT time period, I would announce that I have decided NOT to register my gun and want to leave.  They will seize it.  Sue.

  Second guy has an obscure calibered handgun or rifle.  No ammo.  It&#039;s something they won&#039;t be able to find ammo for- say a jap 6.5X50 bolt rifle or a beat to hell mauser 7.65.  Let them solve their ballistics problem by finding their own ammo.  When they can&#039;t, and the time runs long, sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go in, fully rigged for audio tape with a group.  I&#8217;d bring a recorder person as the decoy, unless the let him tape and record the process.<br />
  When they refuse to be videoed, there&#8217;s one suit.</p>
<p>  First guy tries to register a cheap 38 revolver.  If they won&#8217;t let you leave the building with your own gun during THAT time period, I would announce that I have decided NOT to register my gun and want to leave.  They will seize it.  Sue.</p>
<p>  Second guy has an obscure calibered handgun or rifle.  No ammo.  It&#8217;s something they won&#8217;t be able to find ammo for- say a jap 6.5X50 bolt rifle or a beat to hell mauser 7.65.  Let them solve their ballistics problem by finding their own ammo.  When they can&#8217;t, and the time runs long, sue.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The background check for a concealed carry license in Idaho takes several weeks.  The check for an NFA weapon can take three months.  NICCS is a seperate matter.

All they did in NOLA was lose most of the &quot;paperwork&quot;.  That&#039;s pretty easy.

Right after the Heller decision I pointed out that the DC government&#039;s worst fear now would be a noticeable drop in crime once people start keeping loaded guns.  I said they&#039;d either do anything in their power to prevent that outcome, or they&#039;d try to hide/deny it, or they&#039;d try to take credit for it.

It seems they&#039;re taking the first option. So long as individuals in the DC government pay no price for their Jim Crow style behavior toward gun owners, they will continue on this path.  They&#039;ll have to be either voted out, sued personally, or charged with legal violations.  I&#039;d prefer to see all three.

I think the ballistics test requires the gun to withstand the impact from a 20 ton drop forge.  If it comes through completely undamaged, you can keep it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The background check for a concealed carry license in Idaho takes several weeks.  The check for an NFA weapon can take three months.  NICCS is a seperate matter.</p>
<p>All they did in NOLA was lose most of the &#8220;paperwork&#8221;.  That&#8217;s pretty easy.</p>
<p>Right after the Heller decision I pointed out that the DC government&#8217;s worst fear now would be a noticeable drop in crime once people start keeping loaded guns.  I said they&#8217;d either do anything in their power to prevent that outcome, or they&#8217;d try to hide/deny it, or they&#8217;d try to take credit for it.</p>
<p>It seems they&#8217;re taking the first option. So long as individuals in the DC government pay no price for their Jim Crow style behavior toward gun owners, they will continue on this path.  They&#8217;ll have to be either voted out, sued personally, or charged with legal violations.  I&#8217;d prefer to see all three.</p>
<p>I think the ballistics test requires the gun to withstand the impact from a 20 ton drop forge.  If it comes through completely undamaged, you can keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and 14 days to do a FBI check? thought that could be done in about 2 minutes... unless they arent using the NICS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and 14 days to do a FBI check? thought that could be done in about 2 minutes&#8230; unless they arent using the NICS?</p>
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		<title>By: Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about that too. Just what sort of &quot;ballistics test&quot; might they be conducting? I don&#039;t remember any reference to that on the Metro P.D. web page that I read concerning firearm registration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about that too. Just what sort of &#8220;ballistics test&#8221; might they be conducting? I don&#8217;t remember any reference to that on the Metro P.D. web page that I read concerning firearm registration.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203223</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When life hands you crap, you turn it into a way to make non-felons turn in their firearms. An excerpt from the linked article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;An officer from the gun unit will meet the applicant at the door and take temporary possession of the gun to ensure safety at headquarters.

Officers will tag the gun and conduct ballistics tests before returning the gun to the owner. Paperwork indicating that registration is in process will be provided. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That last sentence there leads me to believe that the police will hold on to the firearms for weeks until they are reluctantly forced to return them. 

After the DC pigs take a crowbar to your wallet, fingerprint you and do the anal probing, and take your gun away, leaving you with only the  &quot;paperwork indicating that registration is in process&quot; that you can use to protect yourself from crime, is someone going to sue?

Can I get an opinion from one of the members of the League of Legal Critters that infest this blog? Or do they not have &quot;standing&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When life hands you crap, you turn it into a way to make non-felons turn in their firearms. An excerpt from the linked article:</p>
<blockquote><p>An officer from the gun unit will meet the applicant at the door and take temporary possession of the gun to ensure safety at headquarters.</p>
<p>Officers will tag the gun and conduct ballistics tests before returning the gun to the owner. Paperwork indicating that registration is in process will be provided. </p></blockquote>
<p>That last sentence there leads me to believe that the police will hold on to the firearms for weeks until they are reluctantly forced to return them. </p>
<p>After the DC pigs take a crowbar to your wallet, fingerprint you and do the anal probing, and take your gun away, leaving you with only the  &#8220;paperwork indicating that registration is in process&#8221; that you can use to protect yourself from crime, is someone going to sue?</p>
<p>Can I get an opinion from one of the members of the League of Legal Critters that infest this blog? Or do they not have &#8220;standing&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Master of Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203219</link>
		<dc:creator>Master of Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heller will be first in line, I assume???!?!?!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heller will be first in line, I assume???!?!?!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ParatrooperJJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ParatrooperJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think the semiauto ban would fall pretty quickly.  If I remember correctly, Heller was trying to register a semiauto so his case would be directly applicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think the semiauto ban would fall pretty quickly.  If I remember correctly, Heller was trying to register a semiauto so his case would be directly applicable.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203203</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any bloggers gonna be at police headquarters reporting on the turnout?  Wish I could be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any bloggers gonna be at police headquarters reporting on the turnout?  Wish I could be there.</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/07/16/post-heller-dc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-203200</link>
		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re pushing from one side and they&#039;re pushing from the other.  There was a Brown vs. Board of Education I and a Brown vs. Board of Education II.  Heller II might take two or three years more.  Vote for McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re pushing from one side and they&#8217;re pushing from the other.  There was a Brown vs. Board of Education I and a Brown vs. Board of Education II.  Heller II might take two or three years more.  Vote for McCain.</p>
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