Comments on: What media bias?

By: chris

chris — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:32:14 +0000

my 45+ year old sears and roebuck .22lr rifle with a 17rd tube is a machine gun in DC… just like it is an assault weapon in NJ…

nevermind that at the time of its original sale it was able to be purchased by almost any age child and even convicted felons…

but remember, gun control isnt about the guns… it is about the control…

By: gattsuru

gattsuru — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:50:49 +0000

As long as the motive force is hand-power, rather than an electric motor, a gatling gun is not contained under the federal definition of a “machine gun”, according to the ATF. For how long that’ll stay the case… I dunno.

Under the DC ban, though, it’s a “machine gun”. So are nearly all semiautomatics, and even some revolvers.

Fun stuff.

By: UNHchabo

UNHchabo — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:28:45 +0000

since a 1911 may be fitted with a fifteen-round capacity, it is bannable as a �machine� gun, just like a Gatling.

I don’t know about DC’s definitions, but by federal definitions, isn’t the Gatling Gun specifically not a Machine Gun because it’s crank-operated, rather than trigger-operated?

By: gattsuru

gattsuru — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:06:24 +0000

There are some odd ones, like the Mateba Autorevolver, that could not be modified to fire more than eleven rounds without reloading, short of basically building a good portion of the gun’s parts from scratch. Most fixed magazine pistols would probably fall into that definition, as well, but not all and not many. You probably could mod a Mauser heavily enough to fit twelve rounds, while still having a few parts of the original gun left, but it wouldn’t be easy.

That law’s a stupid mess, and the sorta thing you’d expect out of a place like DC.

By: bob r

bob r — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:02:54 +0000

Part of that law supposedly includes in definition any weapon which can, or can be modified to, fire twelve or more times without manual reloading.

Depending on the definition of “manual reloading”, a lot of bolt action rifles could be modified to hold twelve or more rounds. A tube magazine .22 bolt rifle wouldn’t even require a modification (don’t know if such exist).

By: teqjack

teqjack — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:37:02 +0000

DC doubtless has a number of laws about firearms, and if one simply bans semi-auto handguns it would probably noy survive challenge. But among others, don't forget that DC bans machine guns. Part of that law supposedly includes in definition any weapon which can, or can be modified to, fire twelve or more times without manual reloading. So (please pardon mistaken terminology), since a 1911 may be fitted with a fifteen-round capacity, it is bannable as a "machine" gun, just like a Gatling. Come to that, is there a semi-auto that cannot be modified to fire more than eleven without re-loading? Heck, there was a thirty-round government-issue "snail drum" for the Luger.

By: Kristopher

Kristopher — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:08:30 +0000

Sulaco Says:

Heller carried a 9mm Smith as I recall.

Then they are already in contempt of the SCOTUS.

By: Sulaco

Sulaco — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:11:09 +0000

Heller carried a 9mm Smith as I recall.

By: Rob K

Rob K — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:23:31 +0000

Harry used a .44 Automag in at the end of Sudden Impact, but went back to his Model 29 for The Dead Pool.

Kevin, I think that was me.

By: Weer'd Beard

Weer'd Beard — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:15:43 +0000

In thier defence, a S&W rep said that the Dirty Harry films was the #1 seller for Model 29 Revolvers.

But yeah, the other side still doesn’t know a damn thing what they’re talking about….but that doesn’t stop them from talking. There should be “reasonable restrictions” on the 1st Amendment to keep these people from spreading dipshittery.

By: gattsuru

gattsuru — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:08:13 +0000

Incorrect use of the word ‘clip’, incorrect definition of ‘semiautomatic’ (the Mauser c96 is still semiautomatic, as is the Mateba autorevolver), and the assumption that there are no 9mm revolvers.

Wonderful reporting.

By: Boondoggie

Boondoggie — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:34:04 +0000

And don’t get me started on the use of the word “clip”.

By: ghuqu

ghuqu — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:17:28 +0000

Didn’t Harry eventually go w/ a 44mag Automag?

By: wizardpc

wizardpc — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:14:26 +0000

Don’t forget the part of the article where they explain that semi-automatics are “those in which a bullet clip is inserted into the gun’s grip”

At CNN, I can understand this story being written by someone who has never seen a gun in real life, but Fox News? gimme a break

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:40:45 +0000

One interesting point brought up by somebody (who escapes me at the moment) but Scalia said in the decision that the city had to give Heller a license and allow him to register “his weapon.”

He’s a security guard. Does he carry a revolver or an automatic?

Doesn’t the decision pretty much tell the city of D.C. that they have to license Heller’s duty weapon?