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		<title>By: Kirk Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Levinson is a he (Sanford =&gt; Sandy)</description>
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<p>Levinson is a he (Sanford =&gt; Sandy)</p>
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		<title>By: matt d</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/06/27/hellerboy/comment-page-1/#comment-202489</link>
		<dc:creator>matt d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Breyer gave a speech after the Kelo decision saying he thought the outcome was incorrect, and hoped that congress would pass anti-takings legislation, but that the decision was nonetheless the legally correct one.  So that&#039;d be one for the other side.

-m@</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Breyer gave a speech after the Kelo decision saying he thought the outcome was incorrect, and hoped that congress would pass anti-takings legislation, but that the decision was nonetheless the legally correct one.  So that&#8217;d be one for the other side.</p>
<p>-m@</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/06/27/hellerboy/comment-page-1/#comment-202476</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Really, when was the last time you saw a SCOTUS justice — liberal, conservative, or otherwise — rule that “I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says,”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From a liberal Justice, never.  Simply doesn&#039;t happen.  To a (judicial) liberal, the Constitution is a &quot;living&quot; document, which is liberalspeak for &quot;fuck whatever shit somebody actually wrote down on paper and voted on.  I am the law, goddamn it.  If I like something, it&#039;s constitutional.  If I don&#039;t, it&#039;s unconstitutional.&quot;

From conservative Justices, all the time.  In &lt;a href=&quot;http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/02-102.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lawrence v. Texas&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (the Right to Sodomize case), Justice Thomas wrote separately for no other reason than to make that very point:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I join Justice Scalia&#039;s dissenting opinion. I write separately to note that the law before the Court today &quot;is ... uncommonly silly.&quot; Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U. S. 479, 527 (1965) (Stewart, J., dissenting).  If I were a member of the Texas Legislature, I would vote to repeal it. Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement resources.

Notwithstanding this, I recognize that as a member of this Court I am not empowered to help petitioners and others similarly situated.  My duty, rather, is to &quot;decide cases &#039;agreeably to the Constitution and laws of the United States.&#039; &quot; Id., at 530. And, just like Justice Stewart, I &quot;can find [neither in the Bill of Rights nor any other part of the Constitution a] general right of privacy,&quot; ibid., or as the Court terms it today, the &quot;liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions,&quot; ante, at 1.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note that that&#039;s actually a twofer, as Justice Thomas quoted Justice Stewart having done the very same thing in an earlier case.  So far, 2-0 in favor of  conservatives ruling &quot;I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says&quot; while liberals never do.  But I say the real score should be at least 3-0, I think, based only on the cases I can cite off the top of my head.  While Justice Scalia didn&#039;t write separately in &lt;a href=&quot;http://laws.findlaw.com/us/491/397.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Texas v. Johnson&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (the flag-burning case) to point out that he hated the result, doesn&#039;t anyone seriously doubt that he did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Really, when was the last time you saw a SCOTUS justice — liberal, conservative, or otherwise — rule that “I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says,”</p></blockquote>
<p>From a liberal Justice, never.  Simply doesn&#8217;t happen.  To a (judicial) liberal, the Constitution is a &#8220;living&#8221; document, which is liberalspeak for &#8220;fuck whatever shit somebody actually wrote down on paper and voted on.  I am the law, goddamn it.  If I like something, it&#8217;s constitutional.  If I don&#8217;t, it&#8217;s unconstitutional.&#8221;</p>
<p>From conservative Justices, all the time.  In <a href="http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/02-102.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Lawrence v. Texas</i></a> (the Right to Sodomize case), Justice Thomas wrote separately for no other reason than to make that very point:</p>
<blockquote><p>I join Justice Scalia&#8217;s dissenting opinion. I write separately to note that the law before the Court today &#8220;is &#8230; uncommonly silly.&#8221; Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U. S. 479, 527 (1965) (Stewart, J., dissenting).  If I were a member of the Texas Legislature, I would vote to repeal it. Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement resources.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding this, I recognize that as a member of this Court I am not empowered to help petitioners and others similarly situated.  My duty, rather, is to &#8220;decide cases &#8216;agreeably to the Constitution and laws of the United States.&#8217; &#8221; Id., at 530. And, just like Justice Stewart, I &#8220;can find [neither in the Bill of Rights nor any other part of the Constitution a] general right of privacy,&#8221; ibid., or as the Court terms it today, the &#8220;liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions,&#8221; ante, at 1.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note that that&#8217;s actually a twofer, as Justice Thomas quoted Justice Stewart having done the very same thing in an earlier case.  So far, 2-0 in favor of  conservatives ruling &#8220;I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says&#8221; while liberals never do.  But I say the real score should be at least 3-0, I think, based only on the cases I can cite off the top of my head.  While Justice Scalia didn&#8217;t write separately in <a href="http://laws.findlaw.com/us/491/397.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Texas v. Johnson</i></a> (the flag-burning case) to point out that he hated the result, doesn&#8217;t anyone seriously doubt that he did?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are concepts regarding interpretation of language in legal analysis that have a long history and are generally accepted among essentially all who practice the law.  One of these is that the plain meaning of words counts more than an interesting interpretation.

For example, Scalia noted that if one says, &quot;He filled and kicked the bucket,&quot; to interpret it as &quot;He filled the bucket and then died&quot; is nonsensical, from a legal perspective.

The old bumper sticker, &quot;What part of &#039;shall not be infringed&#039; don&#039;t you understand&quot; succinctly captures the essence of Gura&#039;s case as presented to the Supremes; that four of them chose to answer the question with &quot;All of it&quot; is disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are concepts regarding interpretation of language in legal analysis that have a long history and are generally accepted among essentially all who practice the law.  One of these is that the plain meaning of words counts more than an interesting interpretation.</p>
<p>For example, Scalia noted that if one says, &#8220;He filled and kicked the bucket,&#8221; to interpret it as &#8220;He filled the bucket and then died&#8221; is nonsensical, from a legal perspective.</p>
<p>The old bumper sticker, &#8220;What part of &#8217;shall not be infringed&#8217; don&#8217;t you understand&#8221; succinctly captures the essence of Gura&#8217;s case as presented to the Supremes; that four of them chose to answer the question with &#8220;All of it&#8221; is disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levinson is full of crap.  On one hand, you have respected works of research and document collections, and on the other a few works of fiction that have been widely discredited.  The only reason she sees &quot;debate&quot; over which is correct, is because she&#039;s got her fingers in her ears saying &quot;la, la, la, la, la, la....&quot;

This is the same way modern liberals try to frame the whole &quot;climate change&quot; debate.  One side is following scientific principles and the other is making stuff up as they go along.  So all you have to do is use words like &quot;consensus&quot; to fool the people on the sidelines into thinking a real debate even exists.  Levinson is no better at performing this task than Al Gore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levinson is full of crap.  On one hand, you have respected works of research and document collections, and on the other a few works of fiction that have been widely discredited.  The only reason she sees &#8220;debate&#8221; over which is correct, is because she&#8217;s got her fingers in her ears saying &#8220;la, la, la, la, la, la&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the same way modern liberals try to frame the whole &#8220;climate change&#8221; debate.  One side is following scientific principles and the other is making stuff up as they go along.  So all you have to do is use words like &#8220;consensus&#8221; to fool the people on the sidelines into thinking a real debate even exists.  Levinson is no better at performing this task than Al Gore.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following a living constitution will mean death to the republic.</description>
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		<title>By: mike w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nomen - I strongly urge you (and the 4 justices who dissented in Heller) to heed the advice of the following quote.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;

-Thomas Jefferson letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823

It sure seems like the Founders advocated an original intent approach to Constitutional interpretation and not this &quot;living Constitution&quot; BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nomen &#8211; I strongly urge you (and the 4 justices who dissented in Heller) to heed the advice of the following quote.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.&#8221;<br />
</em></p>
<p>-Thomas Jefferson letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823</p>
<p>It sure seems like the Founders advocated an original intent approach to Constitutional interpretation and not this &#8220;living Constitution&#8221; BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a boringly common leftist meme. 

&lt;b&gt;Everything is &quot;complicated&quot;&lt;/b&gt;.  Translation-- The rules are old, they don&#039;t apply to me in my unique situation, they were made by dead people, so in effect there are no rules except the ones I want, for me, today.  Tomorrow?  We’ll see.

&lt;b&gt;Confidence is a sign of arrogance&lt;/b&gt;, or of a closed mind.  See above.  Everything is subject to redefinition, based on the new inventions that come along daily.  There is no knowledge, only opinions, old thinking, and people’s inability to agree with me.

&lt;b&gt;Showing a lack of respect for one&#039;s dissenters is bad&lt;/b&gt;, yadda yadda (so long as the dissenter is Leftist.  A Leftist practicing dissent is the very definition of good and proper Americanism).

Heard it all back in the &#039;60s, Baby.  Over and over and over and over…… 

And it’s cute how the term “originalism” is use as an epithet, as though it’s a form of religious extremism or something.  OK, I’ll violate your lease and then accuse you of being an “originalist” if you want it enforced.  What?  You own property?  I’ll use it.  There are many complex reasons why I should have use of your property.  Don’t show me that deed, you originalist.  That is a “living deed” subject to interpretations that make sense &lt;i&gt;here, today&lt;/i&gt;, not somewhere else, not yesterday, you old fuddy duddy.

That attitude is saying, in essence, that there is no objective reality, but more importantly, it means there are no standards by which I must behaive in my dealings with other people.  It lets me off the hook, doesn&#039;t it?  &quot;If it feels good, do it.&quot;  Remember that one?

In the case of the Bill of Rights, there is a clear and definable reality, based on clear and simple principles of Liberty.  That I am typing on a computer keyboard and disseminating this message electronically does not change one iota of the First Amendment.  That ultimate power is to reside in the hands of the people, rather than in the hands of the government, is clearly stated in the founding documents and equally understandable.

That many people hate the Bill of Rights and try to ditch it is another matter altogether.  There is where your “complexity” arises—people trying to muddle the issues in order to skirt the law and violate human rights.  There is precedent after precedent for &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; sort of thing happening every day throughout history.  If it’s precedent you want, you have it for anything under the sun, but that doesn’t change the original meaning of things—it just makes for a lot of mixed up, confused, ignorant people, which in turn leaves the door open for tyranny.

The only, the one and only application of the &quot;living document&quot; claims that we have to endure so often, which makes one scintilla of sense, is built right into the Constitution itself, and that is the process, specifically defined, by which we may amend it.

Simple enough for you?  Wrong question, I know.  Complexity is what we’re supposed to crave, right?  “What’s puzzling you is the nature of my game.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a boringly common leftist meme. </p>
<p><b>Everything is &#8220;complicated&#8221;</b>.  Translation&#8211; The rules are old, they don&#8217;t apply to me in my unique situation, they were made by dead people, so in effect there are no rules except the ones I want, for me, today.  Tomorrow?  We’ll see.</p>
<p><b>Confidence is a sign of arrogance</b>, or of a closed mind.  See above.  Everything is subject to redefinition, based on the new inventions that come along daily.  There is no knowledge, only opinions, old thinking, and people’s inability to agree with me.</p>
<p><b>Showing a lack of respect for one&#8217;s dissenters is bad</b>, yadda yadda (so long as the dissenter is Leftist.  A Leftist practicing dissent is the very definition of good and proper Americanism).</p>
<p>Heard it all back in the &#8217;60s, Baby.  Over and over and over and over…… </p>
<p>And it’s cute how the term “originalism” is use as an epithet, as though it’s a form of religious extremism or something.  OK, I’ll violate your lease and then accuse you of being an “originalist” if you want it enforced.  What?  You own property?  I’ll use it.  There are many complex reasons why I should have use of your property.  Don’t show me that deed, you originalist.  That is a “living deed” subject to interpretations that make sense <i>here, today</i>, not somewhere else, not yesterday, you old fuddy duddy.</p>
<p>That attitude is saying, in essence, that there is no objective reality, but more importantly, it means there are no standards by which I must behaive in my dealings with other people.  It lets me off the hook, doesn&#8217;t it?  &#8220;If it feels good, do it.&#8221;  Remember that one?</p>
<p>In the case of the Bill of Rights, there is a clear and definable reality, based on clear and simple principles of Liberty.  That I am typing on a computer keyboard and disseminating this message electronically does not change one iota of the First Amendment.  That ultimate power is to reside in the hands of the people, rather than in the hands of the government, is clearly stated in the founding documents and equally understandable.</p>
<p>That many people hate the Bill of Rights and try to ditch it is another matter altogether.  There is where your “complexity” arises—people trying to muddle the issues in order to skirt the law and violate human rights.  There is precedent after precedent for <i>that</i> sort of thing happening every day throughout history.  If it’s precedent you want, you have it for anything under the sun, but that doesn’t change the original meaning of things—it just makes for a lot of mixed up, confused, ignorant people, which in turn leaves the door open for tyranny.</p>
<p>The only, the one and only application of the &#8220;living document&#8221; claims that we have to endure so often, which makes one scintilla of sense, is built right into the Constitution itself, and that is the process, specifically defined, by which we may amend it.</p>
<p>Simple enough for you?  Wrong question, I know.  Complexity is what we’re supposed to crave, right?  “What’s puzzling you is the nature of my game.”</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornell&#039;s writing wasn&#039;t as badly debunked as Bellesiles&#039; work was; the former is merely poorly written and misleading, while the latter was actually fraudulent.

That said, I wouldn&#039;t want to use Cornell&#039;s book in a SCOTUS decision, even if he did agree with my viewpoint.  The man&#039;s funding comes from the Joyce Foundation, his cites are misleading, and the work as a whole is not exactly well-written.  That he managed to find the Penn State Constitution to be a quasi-collective right demonstrates exactly how little he cared for factual accuracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornell&#8217;s writing wasn&#8217;t as badly debunked as Bellesiles&#8217; work was; the former is merely poorly written and misleading, while the latter was actually fraudulent.</p>
<p>That said, I wouldn&#8217;t want to use Cornell&#8217;s book in a SCOTUS decision, even if he did agree with my viewpoint.  The man&#8217;s funding comes from the Joyce Foundation, his cites are misleading, and the work as a whole is not exactly well-written.  That he managed to find the Penn State Constitution to be a quasi-collective right demonstrates exactly how little he cared for factual accuracy.</p>
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		<title>By: teqjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>teqjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Really, when was the last time you saw a SCOTUS justice — liberal, conservative, or otherwise — rule that “I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says,” or something along those lines?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
 
Right off the top of my head? Well, in &lt;em&gt;Heller&lt;/em&gt; maybe, since at least one wanted to send it back to a lower court in the hope that there a ban would be found &quot;reasonable&quot; and  while &lt;strong&gt;all nine stated the 2nd affirms an individual right&lt;/strong&gt; a couple grumbled that the Founders &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; have ignored the precedents of common law and declared government to hold all weapon rights (Stevens) and one wanted the lower court to consider a total ban &quot;reasonable&quot; (Breyer). 
 
But a better one might be &lt;em&gt;Kelo,&lt;/em&gt; in which the majority quite explicitly said that the laws in that case, while constitutional, were extremely bad and should be re-written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Really, when was the last time you saw a SCOTUS justice — liberal, conservative, or otherwise — rule that “I hate this outcome, but this is what the law says,” or something along those lines?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Right off the top of my head? Well, in <em>Heller</em> maybe, since at least one wanted to send it back to a lower court in the hope that there a ban would be found &#8220;reasonable&#8221; and  while <strong>all nine stated the 2nd affirms an individual right</strong> a couple grumbled that the Founders <em>should</em> have ignored the precedents of common law and declared government to hold all weapon rights (Stevens) and one wanted the lower court to consider a total ban &#8220;reasonable&#8221; (Breyer). </p>
<p>But a better one might be <em>Kelo,</em> in which the majority quite explicitly said that the laws in that case, while constitutional, were extremely bad and should be re-written.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;living Constitution&quot; concept is method of arbitrary government whereby the judiciary can circumvent that &quot;judges are to be bound by the law&quot; as are the executive and legislative branches according to Article VI, Sections 2 and 3 of &quot;the Supreme Law of the Land&quot;.  Just let a proponent of this &quot;living consitution&quot; thinking enter into a legally bidining contract and have someone else say, &quot;oh, this is a living contract subject to my interpretation&quot;  No, I don&#039;t think they would go along with that and neither should &quot;we the people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;living Constitution&#8221; concept is method of arbitrary government whereby the judiciary can circumvent that &#8220;judges are to be bound by the law&#8221; as are the executive and legislative branches according to Article VI, Sections 2 and 3 of &#8220;the Supreme Law of the Land&#8221;.  Just let a proponent of this &#8220;living consitution&#8221; thinking enter into a legally bidining contract and have someone else say, &#8220;oh, this is a living contract subject to my interpretation&#8221;  No, I don&#8217;t think they would go along with that and neither should &#8220;we the people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: KCSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>KCSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t &quot;Cornell’s fine book &lt;em&gt;A Well-Regulated Militia: The Founding Fathers and the Origins of Gun Control&lt;/em&gt;&quot; rather thoroughly debunked?  Not the sort of thing I&#039;d want someone quoting in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Cornell’s fine book <em>A Well-Regulated Militia: The Founding Fathers and the Origins of Gun Control</em>&#8221; rather thoroughly debunked?  Not the sort of thing I&#8217;d want someone quoting in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/06/27/hellerboy/comment-page-1/#comment-202425</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, where did you get your history degree to declare which of those two lawyers got their historical analysis more closely correct? ;-)

part of the &quot;living constitution&quot; argument is that we cannot &lt;em&gt;help &lt;/em&gt;but have a living constitution. we&#039;re constantly having to decide just how the constitution applies to situations the founders never faced (admittedly, this was much less the case in &lt;i&gt;Heller&lt;/i&gt; than in most cases, but living constitutionalism is not just about &lt;i&gt;Heller&lt;/i&gt;) but the founders are all dead, so we have no way of knowing how they would apply it to the circumstances. we must apply it ourselves, which means we must make sense of it ourselves as best we are able. whether it was &quot;supposed&quot; to be used this way is irrelevant, because we basically can&#039;t use it any other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, where did you get your history degree to declare which of those two lawyers got their historical analysis more closely correct? <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>part of the &#8220;living constitution&#8221; argument is that we cannot <em>help </em>but have a living constitution. we&#8217;re constantly having to decide just how the constitution applies to situations the founders never faced (admittedly, this was much less the case in <i>Heller</i> than in most cases, but living constitutionalism is not just about <i>Heller</i>) but the founders are all dead, so we have no way of knowing how they would apply it to the circumstances. we must apply it ourselves, which means we must make sense of it ourselves as best we are able. whether it was &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be used this way is irrelevant, because we basically can&#8217;t use it any other.</p>
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		<title>By: dr mac</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/06/27/hellerboy/comment-page-1/#comment-202424</link>
		<dc:creator>dr mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If 4 of 9 SCOTUS justices can so easily cast aside the Bill of Rights then I will always hang on to my guns,  thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 4 of 9 SCOTUS justices can so easily cast aside the Bill of Rights then I will always hang on to my guns,  thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/06/27/hellerboy/comment-page-1/#comment-202420</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, I strongly urge both you and Prof. Levinson to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/03/of-laws-and-sausages.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

The Constitution isn&#039;t supposed to be a &quot;living document,&quot; and while yes, both Scalia and Stevens &quot;selectively read&quot; the history, at least Scalia read it &lt;em&gt;accurately&lt;/em&gt;.  Stevens made up his interpretations as he went along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I strongly urge both you and Prof. Levinson to read <a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/03/of-laws-and-sausages.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>The Constitution isn&#8217;t supposed to be a &#8220;living document,&#8221; and while yes, both Scalia and Stevens &#8220;selectively read&#8221; the history, at least Scalia read it <em>accurately</em>.  Stevens made up his interpretations as he went along.</p>
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