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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200625</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The antis don’t care about public opinion. Public opinion is not necessary to advance a legislative agenda.&quot;

If you look at leftist websites, you&#039;ll see that the left, in general, doesn&#039;t debate facts. Rather, most sites are principally concerned with political tactics. In some cases, the issue demands a popular mobilizing, which they are quite efficient at, in others it is based on finding sympathetic legislators and judges. There aren&#039;t really any facts, as far as leftists are concerned, only talking points an rhetorical structures to be manipulated to achieve a political end.

In the case of guns, the left is well aware that the US culture is fundamentally pro-gun and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Every effort at gun control has thus centered around swaying ignorant pols and judges. Most gun control debates are merely designed to throw uncertainty and doubt about the trustworthiness of your neighbors, and to exaggerate the destructive power of weapons.

The fundamental problem the pro-gun movement faces is that once the state takes away the RTKBA, it won&#039;t give it back, as every nation that has banned it has learned. The anti-gun movement obviously also realizes this and is quite patient and deliberate. Patience simply doesn&#039;t require a great deal of debate, and I&#039;m sure that if a suitable climate of fear and suspicion arose you would see many gun control websites materialize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The antis don’t care about public opinion. Public opinion is not necessary to advance a legislative agenda.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you look at leftist websites, you&#8217;ll see that the left, in general, doesn&#8217;t debate facts. Rather, most sites are principally concerned with political tactics. In some cases, the issue demands a popular mobilizing, which they are quite efficient at, in others it is based on finding sympathetic legislators and judges. There aren&#8217;t really any facts, as far as leftists are concerned, only talking points an rhetorical structures to be manipulated to achieve a political end.</p>
<p>In the case of guns, the left is well aware that the US culture is fundamentally pro-gun and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Every effort at gun control has thus centered around swaying ignorant pols and judges. Most gun control debates are merely designed to throw uncertainty and doubt about the trustworthiness of your neighbors, and to exaggerate the destructive power of weapons.</p>
<p>The fundamental problem the pro-gun movement faces is that once the state takes away the RTKBA, it won&#8217;t give it back, as every nation that has banned it has learned. The anti-gun movement obviously also realizes this and is quite patient and deliberate. Patience simply doesn&#8217;t require a great deal of debate, and I&#8217;m sure that if a suitable climate of fear and suspicion arose you would see many gun control websites materialize.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200618</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also been doing serious internet-enabled activism for much, much longer than probably anyone else who reads this.  See the 12/94 Guns &amp; Ammo.

I was at the very first online debate between Sarah Brady &amp; Tayna Metaska on Compuserve back in &#039;95.  Sarah lasted about 10 minutes and signed off without a word.  This scenario was basically repeated during their second debate on AOL and they canceled the third proposed debate because there weren&#039;t any antis showing up.  That was 13 years ago.  The antis have never had a serious online presence and never will.  It hasn&#039;t slowed them down one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also been doing serious internet-enabled activism for much, much longer than probably anyone else who reads this.  See the 12/94 Guns &amp; Ammo.</p>
<p>I was at the very first online debate between Sarah Brady &amp; Tayna Metaska on Compuserve back in &#8217;95.  Sarah lasted about 10 minutes and signed off without a word.  This scenario was basically repeated during their second debate on AOL and they canceled the third proposed debate because there weren&#8217;t any antis showing up.  That was 13 years ago.  The antis have never had a serious online presence and never will.  It hasn&#8217;t slowed them down one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200607</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob writes for and is active in the NY state rifle and pistol association. He&#039;s pretty solidly on our team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob writes for and is active in the NY state rifle and pistol association. He&#8217;s pretty solidly on our team.</p>
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		<title>By: J Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200606</link>
		<dc:creator>J Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So no huge outcry for gun control beyond symbolism, like the banning of “assault weapons”. Everyone knows being shot and killed by a Weatherby is totally different from an AK-47 or M-16.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, if it is your average large bore Weatherby magnum, you&#039;ll be deader quicker and from further away than from those &quot;high-powered&quot; assault weapons.(sic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So no huge outcry for gun control beyond symbolism, like the banning of “assault weapons”. Everyone knows being shot and killed by a Weatherby is totally different from an AK-47 or M-16.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, if it is your average large bore Weatherby magnum, you&#8217;ll be deader quicker and from further away than from those &#8220;high-powered&#8221; assault weapons.(sic)</p>
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		<title>By: Phillep</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200604</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a possible alternative, those who actually support gun control are so close minded that they have no interest at all in hearing the other side of the story.

Jacob, your attempt to hijack the thread is rather transparent, and your political leanings are obvious from the tone of your post. Eric Hoffer mentioned that true believers tend to sound childish, and that describes you very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a possible alternative, those who actually support gun control are so close minded that they have no interest at all in hearing the other side of the story.</p>
<p>Jacob, your attempt to hijack the thread is rather transparent, and your political leanings are obvious from the tone of your post. Eric Hoffer mentioned that true believers tend to sound childish, and that describes you very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nero Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nero Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those on the right believe the 2nd amendment as a plain language right, they do not want an abridgement of that freedom, Those on the left want to protect themselves from the evil they believe will come from the right. So no huge outcry for gun control beyond symbolism, like the banning of &quot;assault weapons&quot;. Everyone knows being shot and killed by a Weatherby is totally different from an AK-47 or M-16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those on the right believe the 2nd amendment as a plain language right, they do not want an abridgement of that freedom, Those on the left want to protect themselves from the evil they believe will come from the right. So no huge outcry for gun control beyond symbolism, like the banning of &#8220;assault weapons&#8221;. Everyone knows being shot and killed by a Weatherby is totally different from an AK-47 or M-16.</p>
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		<title>By: capital L</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200588</link>
		<dc:creator>capital L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s a good one. If it were true we wouldn’t be paying $4/gallon for gas.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh please.  If it weren&#039;t true we&#039;d have been paying euro prices for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s a good one. If it were true we wouldn’t be paying $4/gallon for gas.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh please.  If it weren&#8217;t true we&#8217;d have been paying euro prices for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not just describing NY.  This goes on in every state and Congress too.  The only thing that changes is the matter of degrees on particular issues.  You might not see as much of it on gun issues in TN, but I guarantee it is going on for other ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not just describing NY.  This goes on in every state and Congress too.  The only thing that changes is the matter of degrees on particular issues.  You might not see as much of it on gun issues in TN, but I guarantee it is going on for other ones.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200561</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to minimize your point, btw. I think we&#039;re just arguing over the definition of &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt;. I tend to think that a popular position can motivate politicos. But, then, I&#039;m not in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to minimize your point, btw. I think we&#8217;re just arguing over the definition of <em>huge</em>. I tend to think that a popular position can motivate politicos. But, then, I&#8217;m not in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They control taxes and environmental law.  Do you see any of them falling all over themselves to lower taxes on gas or allow exploration in the US or to build new refineries?  Nope.

Professional politicians work long and hard to get to where they are, especially those higher up the food chain.  They know jolly good and well what their own views on the issues are and are not about to govern based upon a temporary public whim.  They run for office to advance their agenda, not someone else’s.  They are elected with the monetary and manpower support of various special interests who determine in advance where the candidate stands on their pet issue.  They aren’t going to pay much attention to someone else’s opinion unless that person or organization is able to translate their ideas into political power at election time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They control taxes and environmental law.  Do you see any of them falling all over themselves to lower taxes on gas or allow exploration in the US or to build new refineries?  Nope.</p>
<p>Professional politicians work long and hard to get to where they are, especially those higher up the food chain.  They know jolly good and well what their own views on the issues are and are not about to govern based upon a temporary public whim.  They run for office to advance their agenda, not someone else’s.  They are elected with the monetary and manpower support of various special interests who determine in advance where the candidate stands on their pet issue.  They aren’t going to pay much attention to someone else’s opinion unless that person or organization is able to translate their ideas into political power at election time.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200548</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>officials can&#039;t control economy, despite what they tell you. they can control gun laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>officials can&#8217;t control economy, despite what they tell you. they can control gun laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200543</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  That&#039;s a good one.  If it were true we wouldn&#039;t be paying $4/gallon for gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  That&#8217;s a good one.  If it were true we wouldn&#8217;t be paying $4/gallon for gas.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200540</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legislative agenda is a slave to public opinion. And the public seems to be pretty soundly on our side. Or, rather, not on theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legislative agenda is a slave to public opinion. And the public seems to be pretty soundly on our side. Or, rather, not on theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/22/the-non-power-of-one/comment-page-1/#comment-200539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not huge.  The antis don&#039;t care about public opinion.  Public opinion is not necessary to advance a legislative agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not huge.  The antis don&#8217;t care about public opinion.  Public opinion is not necessary to advance a legislative agenda.</p>
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