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		<title>By: stushie</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200546</link>
		<dc:creator>stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retro, I&#039;m impressed with your word skills. Maybe you should write speeches for John McCain, except that he can&#039;t read them off the monitor! He read curtain instead of certain the other night at a rally...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retro, I&#8217;m impressed with your word skills. Maybe you should write speeches for John McCain, except that he can&#8217;t read them off the monitor! He read curtain instead of certain the other night at a rally&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: retro</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200477</link>
		<dc:creator>retro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Stushie&#039;s world, history is simply made up as it&#039;s needed.  Anything is OK as long as it furthers the Messiah&#039;s cause.  

It&#039;s referred to as &quot;sophistry&quot;, but in reality it&#039;s nothing more than perfidious contumaciousness.

Yawn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Stushie&#8217;s world, history is simply made up as it&#8217;s needed.  Anything is OK as long as it furthers the Messiah&#8217;s cause.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s referred to as &#8220;sophistry&#8221;, but in reality it&#8217;s nothing more than perfidious contumaciousness.</p>
<p>Yawn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yosemite Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200473</link>
		<dc:creator>Yosemite Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how you didn&#039;t mention National Republicans in your initial post Stushie. I suspect a bit of google fu to CYA. The National Republicans were a splinter off of the Democratic-Republican party who&#039;s basic unifying factor was their white hot hatred of Andrew Jackson. They were initally called the Anti-Jacksonians. They later on became the Whig party, which later died out. 

The modern Republican party was formed in the 1850&#039;s by moderate abolitionists in Massachusetts. So as I said initally, it is more than a stretch to lay the shameful attacks on Mrs. Jackson at the feet of the GOP. Unless Lincoln had the keys to the time machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how you didn&#8217;t mention National Republicans in your initial post Stushie. I suspect a bit of google fu to CYA. The National Republicans were a splinter off of the Democratic-Republican party who&#8217;s basic unifying factor was their white hot hatred of Andrew Jackson. They were initally called the Anti-Jacksonians. They later on became the Whig party, which later died out. </p>
<p>The modern Republican party was formed in the 1850&#8242;s by moderate abolitionists in Massachusetts. So as I said initally, it is more than a stretch to lay the shameful attacks on Mrs. Jackson at the feet of the GOP. Unless Lincoln had the keys to the time machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Stushie</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200457</link>
		<dc:creator>Stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She never slurred America. She said she was proud of it. I&#039;ve voted Republican all of my voting life, but I hate dirty politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She never slurred America. She said she was proud of it. I&#8217;ve voted Republican all of my voting life, but I hate dirty politics.</p>
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		<title>By: johnx</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure cindy mccain said something just as stupid and it won&#039;t be long before we find out what it was. since that&#039;s what politics is. too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure cindy mccain said something just as stupid and it won&#8217;t be long before we find out what it was. since that&#8217;s what politics is. too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200450</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but this definitely falls under the &quot;if you cannot stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen&quot; heading.  The second she started talking in support of her husband, she became part of his campaign, and thus became fair game.  

If she does not like having her own words used against her (and those words are positively &lt;em&gt;wonderful&lt;/em&gt; pieces of ammunition), then I would suggest that she either stop talking, have someone write her safer scripts, or mind what she says a lot more carefully.  But blaming your opponents for catching you when you slip?  Now &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; is low.  

Though, as a thought, how it is a slur against someone if that someone said the words herself?  I suppose you &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; make a slur against yourself, but that not then preclude it from being an actual slur?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but this definitely falls under the &#8220;if you cannot stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen&#8221; heading.  The second she started talking in support of her husband, she became part of his campaign, and thus became fair game.  </p>
<p>If she does not like having her own words used against her (and those words are positively <em>wonderful</em> pieces of ammunition), then I would suggest that she either stop talking, have someone write her safer scripts, or mind what she says a lot more carefully.  But blaming your opponents for catching you when you slip?  Now <em>that</em> is low.  </p>
<p>Though, as a thought, how it is a slur against someone if that someone said the words herself?  I suppose you <em>can</em> make a slur against yourself, but that not then preclude it from being an actual slur?</p>
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		<title>By: Yu-Ain Gonnano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yu-Ain Gonnano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the National Republicans were the precurser of the Whigs.  The Whigs ended up splitting on the issue of slavery.  The anti-slavery (Northern) half joined with the Republican Party, while the pro-slavery (Southern) half eventually joined the Democratic Party.

So to say that the National Republicans were the precurser of the GOP is rather a stretch.  What they *were* the precurser of dissolved and contributed to both modern parties.


As for Michele Obama: You can&#039;t climb into the ring, and then whine about being hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the National Republicans were the precurser of the Whigs.  The Whigs ended up splitting on the issue of slavery.  The anti-slavery (Northern) half joined with the Republican Party, while the pro-slavery (Southern) half eventually joined the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>So to say that the National Republicans were the precurser of the GOP is rather a stretch.  What they *were* the precurser of dissolved and contributed to both modern parties.</p>
<p>As for Michele Obama: You can&#8217;t climb into the ring, and then whine about being hit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***sorry, dog on keyboard*** .  When&#039;s the last time Obama stood up for John McCain, or gun owners, or religious Christians recently?  I guess when its time to negotiate with terrorist friendly nations like Iran, all they have to do is make remarks disagreeing with his wife and he&#039;ll surrender.  Maybe Obama is part French?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***sorry, dog on keyboard*** .  When&#8217;s the last time Obama stood up for John McCain, or gun owners, or religious Christians recently?  I guess when its time to negotiate with terrorist friendly nations like Iran, all they have to do is make remarks disagreeing with his wife and he&#8217;ll surrender.  Maybe Obama is part French?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Obama and some of his spineless supporters would quit trying to dictate what can be and not be said of Hussein+</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Obama and some of his spineless supporters would quit trying to dictate what can be and not be said of Hussein+</p>
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		<title>By: stushie</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200440</link>
		<dc:creator>stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Yosemite and retro, read your history books. JQA&#039;s party was called the National Republicans - the precursors (I presume you know what that means) of the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Yosemite and retro, read your history books. JQA&#8217;s party was called the National Republicans &#8211; the precursors (I presume you know what that means) of the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron W</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200423</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Michelle Obama is speaking and campaigning actively for her husband. That makes her a legitimate political target.&quot;

There you have it, Yosemite Sam!!

The TN GOP ad that I saw only ran her videos of Michelle Obama&#039;s own words deliverd in public campaigning for Barack Obama.

I suppose she would complain if she posted here and then had her words quoted and critiqued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Michelle Obama is speaking and campaigning actively for her husband. That makes her a legitimate political target.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you have it, Yosemite Sam!!</p>
<p>The TN GOP ad that I saw only ran her videos of Michelle Obama&#8217;s own words deliverd in public campaigning for Barack Obama.</p>
<p>I suppose she would complain if she posted here and then had her words quoted and critiqued.</p>
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		<title>By: retro</title>
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		<dc:creator>retro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stushie, please don&#039;t let anything like facts or, you know, actual American history get in the way of your agenda or your Messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stushie, please don&#8217;t let anything like facts or, you know, actual American history get in the way of your agenda or your Messiah.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosemite Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200420</link>
		<dc:creator>Yosemite Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Republicans were soundly defeated in that campaign, partly due to Jackson’s immense popularity and the distasteful attacks against his wife.&quot;

That&#039;s a pretty good feat for the Republicans because the party wasn&#039;t formed until the 1850&#039;s and Jackson was elected president in 1828. 

Your main point is invalid as well. Rachel Jackson loathed politics and pleaded with Andrew Jackson not to run for office. He did anyway, and Rachel certainly did not campaign for him. In contrast, Michelle Obama is speaking and campaigning actively for her husband. That makes her a legitimate political target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Republicans were soundly defeated in that campaign, partly due to Jackson’s immense popularity and the distasteful attacks against his wife.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty good feat for the Republicans because the party wasn&#8217;t formed until the 1850&#8242;s and Jackson was elected president in 1828. </p>
<p>Your main point is invalid as well. Rachel Jackson loathed politics and pleaded with Andrew Jackson not to run for office. He did anyway, and Rachel certainly did not campaign for him. In contrast, Michelle Obama is speaking and campaigning actively for her husband. That makes her a legitimate political target.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky for us that Obama has that boat anchor tied around his neck. He&#039;s probably the one afraid of hurting her feelings, which means we get to see more of her stupid during the race, and McCain gets to reap the benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky for us that Obama has that boat anchor tied around his neck. He&#8217;s probably the one afraid of hurting her feelings, which means we get to see more of her stupid during the race, and McCain gets to reap the benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron W</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/05/20/in-defense-of-tn-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-200414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If McCain has any spine, he will condemn these spurious attacks and call to make political spousal abuse off limits for both parties.

When a spouse is making public speechs for their spousal candidate, what they SAY is fair game for the political discourse. If they don&#039;t want criticism, then don&#039;t speak out publically in behalf of a candidate.

And again, Michelle Obama is a member of the CFR powe-elites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If McCain has any spine, he will condemn these spurious attacks and call to make political spousal abuse off limits for both parties.</p>
<p>When a spouse is making public speechs for their spousal candidate, what they SAY is fair game for the political discourse. If they don&#8217;t want criticism, then don&#8217;t speak out publically in behalf of a candidate.</p>
<p>And again, Michelle Obama is a member of the CFR powe-elites.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They must figure that it’s easier to attack a candidate’s spouse rather than go for the main contender.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/22/america/22clinton.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wonder where they learned that&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They must figure that it’s easier to attack a candidate’s spouse rather than go for the main contender.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know. <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/22/america/22clinton.php" rel="nofollow">Wonder where they learned that</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Stushie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tennessee GOP has started its Fall campaign on Obama by attacking his wife Michelle for her “proud of America” remarks. They must figure that it’s easier to attack a candidate’s spouse rather than go for the main contender. It’s discourteous and one that is reminiscent of the 1828 attacks against Andy Jackson’s wife Rachel. The Republicans were soundly defeated in that campaign, partly due to Jackson’s immense popularity and the distasteful attacks against his wife.

It remains to be seen if history will repeat itself, but throughout the nomination process, trying to beat Obama with personal attacks instead of policy arguments has all but failed. GOP Tennesseans may feel they were being patriotic in singling out Michelle Obama for their initial attack ads, but this will only increase Obama’s popularity and make Tennessean Republicans look paltry.

If McCain has any spine, he will condemn these spurious attacks and call to make political spousal abuse off limits for both parties. Politics is an ugly business, but drive-by slurs only makes the perpetrators look even uglier in the eyes of voting citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tennessee GOP has started its Fall campaign on Obama by attacking his wife Michelle for her “proud of America” remarks. They must figure that it’s easier to attack a candidate’s spouse rather than go for the main contender. It’s discourteous and one that is reminiscent of the 1828 attacks against Andy Jackson’s wife Rachel. The Republicans were soundly defeated in that campaign, partly due to Jackson’s immense popularity and the distasteful attacks against his wife.</p>
<p>It remains to be seen if history will repeat itself, but throughout the nomination process, trying to beat Obama with personal attacks instead of policy arguments has all but failed. GOP Tennesseans may feel they were being patriotic in singling out Michelle Obama for their initial attack ads, but this will only increase Obama’s popularity and make Tennessean Republicans look paltry.</p>
<p>If McCain has any spine, he will condemn these spurious attacks and call to make political spousal abuse off limits for both parties. Politics is an ugly business, but drive-by slurs only makes the perpetrators look even uglier in the eyes of voting citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Obama is fair political game. She is a Council on Foreign Relations member, a tiny, but very powerful group composed of establishment politicians of both parties and talking heads in the major media. You can&#039;t join, but are invited in. So Michelle Obama probably plans to be evry bit the &quot;co-president&quot; that Hillary Clinton claimed pirior to the election of Clinton and Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Obama is fair political game. She is a Council on Foreign Relations member, a tiny, but very powerful group composed of establishment politicians of both parties and talking heads in the major media. You can&#8217;t join, but are invited in. So Michelle Obama probably plans to be evry bit the &#8220;co-president&#8221; that Hillary Clinton claimed pirior to the election of Clinton and Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: _Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>_Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this guy thinks he can &#039;negotiate&#039; with dictators....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this guy thinks he can &#8216;negotiate&#8217; with dictators&#8230;.</p>
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