Pizza Hut was absolutely correct in firing the driver, but they should have done it immediately, and pushed for prosecution of the driver for murder.

Are you retarded?

The self defense claim is frankly BULLSHIT!

The police disagree. And they have not charged him.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

I guess you are retarded.

And converting a Winchells into a Pizza Hut is a major step down in quality.

that said, i know many guys that were robbed, beaten, had their wallets and cars stolen etc… the worst part about getting robbed is not loosing the pizza and the $$… but it is knowing that the robbers now have your ID and your address… and if they were willing to rob you in public, what might they be willing to do if they come visit your house?

Who thinks it’s worth it to lose a life over a pizza and $20 in change?

Hilarious.

Um, how then do you explain this?

Members of the Metropolitan Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are jointly conducting an investigation into the July 6, 1997, murders of three Starbucks Coffee Company employees at the Starbucks store located at 1810 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. The three murders occurred during an apparent robbery attempt after the store was closed.

That is in an “upscale” section of DC.

People like you simply don’t live in reality.

You must be joking. That’s like saying the top income tax reate is “merely doing what society wants”

At least this way, he can do something with his life other than being a pizza-boi.

Daniel, it’s not only about greed, it’s about nuthouse lawsuits and juries that award millions of dollars. Let me hit YOU with a frivolous million dollar lawsuit and see how you’d react.

Because of the lawsuit threat, Pizza Hut had to fire him. I’m still boycotting them, because they could have found a way to take care of the fellow anyway. The lawsuits force the firing, not the need to f’ the young man over.

The deliveryman defended himself, and he is alive. Hurrah for him! Pizza Hut: blech. They can go bake themselves. But until lawsuit abuse is reined in, we are ALL at risk.

The mostly female, liberal group thought Pizza Hut was right

Did you suggest they head down to the SE side of Des Moines at night, alone, unarmed, with a big flashing “I have money” sign on their car, and see what happens?

It was only later that I realized that it was mostly the older, more experienced drivers who carried, and two of the ones I knew who were more-or-less “lifers” had installed custom hidey-holes in thier cars that would pop the gun out, grip first, at the press of a button. Those dudes only needed about half a second and they were ready to fire.

Note: I do recall three or four times out of four years in a mid-sized college town where somebody carrying scared away would-be robbers by brandishing. Nobody ever had to fire. There were three times as many or so who were unarmed and simply gave up their moneybag & pizza.

If they were all carrying and all brandished upon confrontation, I wonder how long the bad guys would continue to attempt to hold them up?

Who thinks it’s worth it to lose a life over a pizza and $20 in change?

Interesting that you assume that the only thing they want is the pizza and $20. Tell that to this guy.

Brian Wells died August 28, 2003, in Erie, Pennsylvania, after he claimed gunmen grabbed him, locked the bomb around his neck and ordered him to rob a bank. Police detained him after the robbery, and the device exploded as he waited on the pavement. A bomb squad was en route to the scene but did not arrive in time.

Authorities have not said whether they believe Wells was a victim or a co-conspirator in the plot.

I’m betting he wasn’t a co-conspirator. Usually Co-conspirators don’t strap live bombs around their own necks.

In Washington, DC, a pizza chain (I think it was Dominoes) was sued for not delivering to less savoury areas (Racial discrimination). DC has, if not the toughest, one of the toughest gun laws in the nation.

I’m starting to think EVERYONE should carry. And I don’t own a gun.

The only way to prevent me from carrying anywhere is to search me. America would be a safer place if the 70 million plus who do own firearms had the same attitude. They can’t lock all of us up.

When I ran a pizza delivery store we would often hire drivers to start immediately when they came in to fill out an application. Getting a driver who was experienced in the area was considered a bonanza- some of these guys/girls have their own flock of regulars.

That said, as a legal neophyte, a question – if a company does not specifically make something against the rules, does that fall under “corporate allowance”? For example (and all analogies are flawed), if a company does not make suicide against the corporate rules, and someone goes out and offs themself, can their survivors hold the company liable?

Because, damn, that would just be stupid.

Personally, I never cared much about the $$ or the pizza, I cared much more about my own skin and my car. Oh, btw, when you do 4-5 pie runs you don’t have $20 on you, you have $80-200 on you until you can get back to the store and make a drop.

OTOH, the horsecrap about some goblin disarming you may have some validity if you believe that a firearm is a magic wand that dispells bad guys. However, if you have training and take the tool seriously as a tool the likelihood of some yahoo disarming you is reduced exponentially. Yes, it can be done, but typically the people who are able to do so don’t rob pizza drivers.

If you have not yet done so, I encourage you to go in and talk to your police chief and sheriff and inform him of your plan to keep his officers safe.

As for the commenter who said Pizza Hut is consistent, so what? So am I? I don’t trade with people who are willing to be a silent participant in the murder of their employees for profit.

Being a prick as was stated above does not become more acceptable because one is prick a lot.

Which makes sense. If a robber has left a store and is no longer a threat to the employees and customers, there is no sense to continue to put you or anybody else in danger. Ain’t nothing stolen that can’t be replaced.

Now if you’re in a bad part of town delivering pizza pie at 10:30pm and somebody pulls a gun on you and you fear for your life…

I hate to defend Pizza Hut at all here, but the policy for drivers has been in effect for decades, and they’ve fired drivers for the very same thing in the past. I don’t have to like it, but they ARE consistent.

So? Whoever said that being a prick the same way many times in a row makes you any less of a prick than you otherwise would have been?

Who thinks it’s worth it to lose a life over a pizza and $20 in change?

No one, but if you’d bothered to read the story before commenting, you’d know that cops say his life was threatened. Maybe his life is only worth $20 to you, but I can scarcely blame the guy for valuing his own life a bit higher than that.

One word: safety. Most retail stores have a no confrontation policy about robbers. Allowing employees to confront usually results in dire consequences — for the employee. The chances the gun will be turned on the employee is far greater.

Who thinks it’s worth it to lose a life over a pizza and $20 in change?

Anyone? Anyone?

After all, the employer doesn’t care about several things – your life or your constitutional right to defend yourself.

On the other hand, they care about their profit level.

There’s only one word for that.

Greed.

After events such as these, why would anyone want to work for them?