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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re the only ones . . . I got nothing</title>
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		<title>By: Joat</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/17/were_the_only_ones_i_go_nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-197055</link>
		<dc:creator>Joat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember hearing a statistic that in Los Angeles over half the police shootings were cops shooting them selves or other cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember hearing a statistic that in Los Angeles over half the police shootings were cops shooting them selves or other cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Brits are as screwed up about guns as any people on earth...

BUT

I think there is much less to this article than the headline implies.  (No, shoddy journalism you say? I&#039;m shocked!)  Go by memory (I read it yesterday) they are reporting something like four incidents in a twelve year period, compared to seven incidents in a four or five year period.   While the percentage increase is huge, this happens when the absolute numbers are very low.

And to truly detect a trend, they would have to compare the number incidents with the number of firearms officers at the times the incidents occured .  IIRC, Britain substantially increased their armed officers -- is that rate of increase the same, higher, or even lower than the rate of NDs?  Not covered in the article.  POOR REPORTING.

NDs don&#039;t appear to be a epidemic.  They should worry more about how the police manage to shoot an innocent electrician in the head a number of times and then lose all those surveillance videos Britain is so famous for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Brits are as screwed up about guns as any people on earth&#8230;</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>I think there is much less to this article than the headline implies.  (No, shoddy journalism you say? I&#8217;m shocked!)  Go by memory (I read it yesterday) they are reporting something like four incidents in a twelve year period, compared to seven incidents in a four or five year period.   While the percentage increase is huge, this happens when the absolute numbers are very low.</p>
<p>And to truly detect a trend, they would have to compare the number incidents with the number of firearms officers at the times the incidents occured .  IIRC, Britain substantially increased their armed officers &#8212; is that rate of increase the same, higher, or even lower than the rate of NDs?  Not covered in the article.  POOR REPORTING.</p>
<p>NDs don&#8217;t appear to be a epidemic.  They should worry more about how the police manage to shoot an innocent electrician in the head a number of times and then lose all those surveillance videos Britain is so famous for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sailorcurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sailorcurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian hit half of the point that I brought up over at &lt;a&gt;Firehand&#039;s place&lt;/a&gt;.

The other half is that most police style organizations don&#039;t have the training budget for sufficient ongoing training to maintain proficiency.  In the US, there are plenty of &quot;off-duty&quot; opportunities for officers who so desire to improve their skills (and, thereby, reinforce safe handling practices) on their own time.  In England...not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian hit half of the point that I brought up over at <a>Firehand&#8217;s place</a>.</p>
<p>The other half is that most police style organizations don&#8217;t have the training budget for sufficient ongoing training to maintain proficiency.  In the US, there are plenty of &#8220;off-duty&#8221; opportunities for officers who so desire to improve their skills (and, thereby, reinforce safe handling practices) on their own time.  In England&#8230;not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a serious issue.  You can&#039;t expect a society where no one has any familiarity with the safe and proficient use of arms to be competent at such when having to do it for a living.  A healthy shooting culture is vital to both national security, and the safety of our police officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a serious issue.  You can&#8217;t expect a society where no one has any familiarity with the safe and proficient use of arms to be competent at such when having to do it for a living.  A healthy shooting culture is vital to both national security, and the safety of our police officers.</p>
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		<title>By: k-romulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>k-romulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why LEO trainers support Heller . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is why LEO trainers support Heller . . . .</p>
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