Comments on: Gun Registration http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:14:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196422 Xrlq Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:01:44 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196422 Me, neither, I hope. If I do, my ace in the hole is that some of my guns are not, and need not be, registered there. If you're wondering how to do that, you probably can't. I only can myself because I owned the guns first, then moved to Cali before they passed the law requiring new residents to register their guns (while grandfathering in the old ones), and then got the hell out. Me, neither, I hope. If I do, my ace in the hole is that some of my guns are not, and need not be, registered there. If you’re wondering how to do that, you probably can’t. I only can myself because I owned the guns first, then moved to Cali before they passed the law requiring new residents to register their guns (while grandfathering in the old ones), and then got the hell out.

]]> By: Kevin Baker http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196419 Kevin Baker Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:24:49 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196419 Thankfully I don't live in the People's Democratic Republic of Californistan, nor will I. Ever. Thankfully I don’t live in the People’s Democratic Republic of Californistan, nor will I.

Ever.

]]> By: Draven http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196332 Draven Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:54:27 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196332 If you've bought a handgun in CA under the current laws, not only are you on a list, but it IS registered TO YOU. If you’ve bought a handgun in CA under the current laws, not only are you on a list, but it IS registered TO YOU.

]]> By: Kevin Baker http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196326 Kevin Baker Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:31:33 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196326 Jimbob, <a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/01/hey.html" rel="nofollow">I'm <em>already</em> on a list</a>. Jimbob, I’m already on a list.

]]> By: straightarrrow http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196324 straightarrrow Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:24:45 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196324 Now, now, we should all be pragmatic about this. Are we to abandon pragmatism for rights or principles? Oh surelyl, I haven't read that. Now, now, we should all be pragmatic about this. Are we to abandon pragmatism for rights or principles? Oh surelyl, I haven’t read that.

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196312 Xrlq Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:55:59 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196312 Has GOC ever done <i>anything</i> for California gun owners? I have to wonder if there is a reason why they quoted them rather than CRPA. Has GOC ever done anything for California gun owners? I have to wonder if there is a reason why they quoted them rather than CRPA.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196306 Sebastian Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:02:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196306 <i>IMO the GOC is a self-interest lobby that hasn’t done a lot for CA gun owners.</i> Pretty clearly. I doubt anyone would call me a no-compromise, charge the machine gun nest type of activist, but even I have a hard time stomaching what's going on here. Hell, it's just generally creepy. Would people tolerate, say, if liquor sales in California had to be logged with the state, and the state then cross references college records to go pay visits to anyone who showed up in the log and also showed up as being an under 21 college student? That would creep most people out, I think. Yet if it's gun owners, it's ok, right? IMO the GOC is a self-interest lobby that hasn’t done a lot for CA gun owners.

Pretty clearly. I doubt anyone would call me a no-compromise, charge the machine gun nest type of activist, but even I have a hard time stomaching what’s going on here. Hell, it’s just generally creepy. Would people tolerate, say, if liquor sales in California had to be logged with the state, and the state then cross references college records to go pay visits to anyone who showed up in the log and also showed up as being an under 21 college student? That would creep most people out, I think. Yet if it’s gun owners, it’s ok, right?

]]> By: Firehand http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196301 Firehand Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:50:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196301 Jim, you think a bunch of us aren't <em>already</em> on the list? Jim, you think a bunch of us aren’t already on the list?

]]> By: DirtCrashr http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196294 DirtCrashr Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:49:46 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196294 IMO the GOC is a self-interest lobby that hasn't done a lot for CA gun owners. IMO the GOC is a self-interest lobby that hasn’t done a lot for CA gun owners.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196285 Sebastian Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:09:36 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196285 Did I read that last part right? Gun Owners of California is ok with this? I might not have a problem with something like this if firearms prohibitions were limited to people who have been convicted of truly violent crimes... and even then I'm not sure I approve of the police state tactics. So being in the registration database is probable cause to get a warrant for the cops to turn your house over looking for it? Screw that. Welcome to Brady State Number One... sign over your second and fourth amendment rights at the dotted line. Did I read that last part right? Gun Owners of California is ok with this? I might not have a problem with something like this if firearms prohibitions were limited to people who have been convicted of truly violent crimes… and even then I’m not sure I approve of the police state tactics. So being in the registration database is probable cause to get a warrant for the cops to turn your house over looking for it? Screw that. Welcome to Brady State Number One… sign over your second and fourth amendment rights at the dotted line.

]]> By: jimbob86 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196279 jimbob86 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:58:35 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196279 Now you've gone and done it, Kevin. You are now on the "Things will get intersting list." Now you’ve gone and done it, Kevin. You are now on the “Things will get intersting list.”

]]> By: Kevin Baker http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196255 Kevin Baker Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:25:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196255 This is the main reason I was so reticent to apply for a CCW. I will NOT register, ever. And if they come for mine... Things will get interesting. This is the main reason I was so reticent to apply for a CCW.

I will NOT register, ever. And if they come for mine…

Things will get interesting.

]]> By: TheJTrain http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196242 TheJTrain Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:29:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196242 What bothers me most about all that is the ease with which Person A can bypass Person B's due process and get a restraining order against Person B, thus removing their right to self-defense. Doesn't even take cause, probable or otherwise - just Person A with a sob story to tell a judge inclined to take their word at face value. "Yessir judge, that guy right there's a baaaaaad man, and I want a restraining order against him so he can't keep his gun." What bothers me most about all that is the ease with which Person A can bypass Person B’s due process and get a restraining order against Person B, thus removing their right to self-defense. Doesn’t even take cause, probable or otherwise – just Person A with a sob story to tell a judge inclined to take their word at face value.

“Yessir judge, that guy right there’s a baaaaaad man, and I want a restraining order against him so he can’t keep his gun.”

]]> By: Rustmeister http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196239 Rustmeister Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:17:32 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196239 <blockquote>“armed and prohibited” gun owners </blockquote> All it takes is to gently change the definition of "prohibited" over the course of a few years and voila! A disarmed public.

“armed and prohibited” gun owners

All it takes is to gently change the definition of “prohibited” over the course of a few years and voila! A disarmed public.

]]> By: HardCorps http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196238 HardCorps Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:12:19 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196238 Hrm, suicide watch with loaded guns everywhere. What a great assessment by the mental health system - it seems he wasn't that serious about it because he waited until the .gov had time to waltz its ass over there. Yea, I'd probably be agitated too if many cops came searching through my house. Hrm, suicide watch with loaded guns everywhere. What a great assessment by the mental health system – it seems he wasn’t that serious about it because he waited until the .gov had time to waltz its ass over there. Yea, I’d probably be agitated too if many cops came searching through my house.

]]> By: thirdpower http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/03/04/gun_registration/comment-page-1/#comment-196236 thirdpower Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:50:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/03/04/gun_registration/#comment-196236 Notice who their "researcher" is? The virulent anti-gunner Wintemute, who thinks anecdotes and personal bias's = "data" Notice who their “researcher” is? The virulent anti-gunner Wintemute, who thinks anecdotes and personal bias’s = “data”

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