Comments on: Gun Control Presser

By: Chas

Chas — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:02:49 +0000

The Brady police state solutions are not acceptable.

By: RC

RC — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:43:01 +0000

There is no such thing as a foreign-made assault weapon. That’s why we have to deal with 922r compliance. Not to mention, the Ill. shooter used a shotgun, a Hi-Point .380, and a Glock.

Oh, and did they mention he used to be a corrections officer, and thus may have retained HR218 priveleges?

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:27:35 +0000

I think they actually get excited anytime some guy falls out of his tree and goes on a rampage.

That’s why we call it “Dancing in the blood of the slain.”

By: BobG

BobG — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:16:24 +0000

The Brady Bunch has no shame whatsoever; they sent me an email telling how this shows that the “gun show loophole” needs to be closed. I think they actually get excited anytime some guy falls out of his tree and goes on a rampage.

By: Regolith

Regolith — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:21:39 +0000

Establish a system whereby university officials are notified when a student purchases a gun from a gun dealer.

Fuck. That. Shit. The last thing I need is to be yanked out of class to be questioned why I bought my latest hunting rifle by some tin pot nanny college administrator.

And imagine if the reason I was yanked out of class got around? Or if the administrator decided to share this information with my teachers or fellow classmates, some of whom may be anti-gun or criminals? Not only is my reputation unfairly tarnished, my grades may suffer as well, and my apartment may be targeted for robberies while I’m in class. Screw that.

By: ben

ben — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:51:38 +0000

They still get Washington State wrong on two counts:

1. it is legal to sell handguns to persons 18-20. Just not for dealers, but that’s a federal, not a state law.

2. We do have “shoot first,” it’s just that we’ve had it for so long that nobody knows about it.

By: illspirit

illspirit — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:01:51 +0000

But, err, doesn’t Illinois already require background checks on all sales at gun shows anyway?

By: wizardPC

wizardPC — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:48:49 +0000

once again they are pushing things that would have done nothing here. In addition to what others have said, I’ll add that he bought 3 of the 4 weapons at a gun shop in Champaign the Saturday before.

By: Alcibiades McZombie

Alcibiades McZombie — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:43:29 +0000

I don’t know why they say 10 rounds. They scored NJ well for having a 15 round limit.

By: Sigivald

Sigivald — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:22:47 +0000

Let's analyse that last one. It requires a national database of every college student. The privacy issues alone are immense, not to mention the difficulty in getting staggeringly incompetent colleges to participate usefully. (And then there's the "unfunded mandate" problem.) Matt: That's not quite accurate, historically; there were, after all, plenty of Norinco AKs imported with no US parts at all, and the "10 US parts" law is much newer than 1968 - it dates to 1990. The NRA-ILA has some history of the evolution of 18USC922 and 18USC925 here. So, there are "foreign made assault weapons", but they're all grandfathered in from before the AWB (if we grant their use of "assault weapon"; even if we don't, there are a trifling number of honest to god foreign made Assault Weapons around. They just cost 10 thousand dollars or more and live in class-3 collector vaults.)

By: joated

joated — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:17:09 +0000

That last one about notifying Northern Illinois University would have worked real well. This shooter wasn’t a student at Northern Illinois. He had been an honored student there but had graduated and was, until yesterday a graduate student at the University of Illinois.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:08:11 +0000

There is no such thing as a “foreign made assault weapon”. ATF regulations require that rifles assembled from foreign made parts must contain 10 or fewer imported parts to permit them to be legally sold in the USA. That’s been the case since 1968.

In 2005, the BATFE changed the regulations and expanded the ban on importation of foreign made parts from not just receiver but barrels, action parts and the like. As a result, the supply of parts kits minus receiver has stopped effective Dec 31, 2005.

This is one of the reasons the costs on AK pattern rifles will only continue to rise as the last supplies of parts kits dry up and then US builders will be forced to manufacturer US components that used to be drawn from foreign sources.

There is already enforcement on the so-called “federal ban on the importation of foreign made assault weapons”. More like foreign made parts and it was a regulatory change, not a legislative one. It’s already enforced. If you didn’t have an order or contract for parts in place prior to Dec 31, 2005, you aren’t getting any more foreign parts.

Talk about deception and pointless bleating.