Comments on: Freedom is just another word…for nothing left to lose http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195249 # 9 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:29:26 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195249 You know it is bad when you start talking to yourself. How long has the "house guest" been in your head? You know it is bad when you start talking to yourself. How long has the “house guest” been in your head?

]]> By: Metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195233 Metulj Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:35:28 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195233 The funny thing is: He didn't have to google it to know that Wilde signed himself in with that name after he was broken at Reading Gaol. Neither did I. Toodles. BTW, England is a country, a nation, but it is part of Great Britain. Google it. It's true. The funny thing is: He didn’t have to google it to know that Wilde signed himself in with that name after he was broken at Reading Gaol. Neither did I. Toodles.

BTW, England is a country, a nation, but it is part of Great Britain. Google it. It’s true.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195231 # 9 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:19:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195231 Your house guest uses Oscar Wilde's pseudomyn? Yeah, right. Your house guest uses Oscar Wilde’s pseudomyn? Yeah, right.

]]> By: Metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195228 Metulj Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:35:43 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195228 Not me. House guest. Very funny. We are laughing at you together. You do know that groups of people laughing at you is common, don't you? Not me. House guest. Very funny. We are laughing at you together. You do know that groups of people laughing at you is common, don’t you?

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195217 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:43:28 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195217 It was you metulj, nice sock puppet name. Use the Kringle's can and grab a different IP. But the rich white people bit gave you away. It was you metulj, nice sock puppet name. Use the Kringle’s can and grab a different IP. But the rich white people bit gave you away.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195215 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:34:53 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195215 You judge people by the color of their skin and their economic achievement? Isn't that a little biased? Let me guess, you like social democrats like our neighbors the French and the British? You sound a little like old pal metulj. You judge people by the color of their skin and their economic achievement? Isn’t that a little biased?

Let me guess, you like social democrats like our neighbors the French and the British?

You sound a little like old pal metulj.

]]> By: Sebastian Melmoth http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195213 Sebastian Melmoth Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:28:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195213 Of the 20 or so economists mentioned in that "source" (it's hard to call Wikipedia a source), 18 are dead, all were white and privileged, and none had a single shred of empirical evidence to support their claims. If minarchism is minimal rule, then neoliberalism is minimal scholarship. Of the 20 or so economists mentioned in that “source” (it’s hard to call Wikipedia a source), 18 are dead, all were white and privileged, and none had a single shred of empirical evidence to support their claims. If minarchism is minimal rule, then neoliberalism is minimal scholarship.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195207 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:11:50 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195207 Give this a spin Sebastian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism Give this a spin Sebastian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

]]> By: Sebastian Melmoth http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195206 Sebastian Melmoth Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:08:21 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195206 "Classical Democrat=Classical Liberal" Do you blog with a feather pen? Are you a three-cornered hat man? What about leggings with your britches? Or do you just prefer to go about in your riding boots? “Classical Democrat=Classical Liberal”

Do you blog with a feather pen? Are you a three-cornered hat man? What about leggings with your britches? Or do you just prefer to go about in your riding boots?

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195180 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:23:03 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195180 Classical Democrat=Classical Liberal Classical Democrat=Classical Liberal

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195166 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:02:54 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195166 tgirsch, I know you see me as a libertarian, but I am a Classical Democrat. Which is a contemporary Conservative. There is some small L in there. I think most Conservatives have some small L. I think what most people miss is that this device affects the hearing of any person that can hear it. I don't see the free market argument. If I am in that store I hear it when the store owner buzzes some undesirable kid. What about the kids that are not undesirable? Too much collateral damage. Too slippery slope. tgirsch, I know you see me as a libertarian, but I am a Classical Democrat. Which is a contemporary Conservative. There is some small L in there. I think most Conservatives have some small L.

I think what most people miss is that this device affects the hearing of any person that can hear it. I don’t see the free market argument. If I am in that store I hear it when the store owner buzzes some undesirable kid. What about the kids that are not undesirable?

Too much collateral damage. Too slippery slope.

]]> By: tgirsch http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195160 tgirsch Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:32:12 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195160 Careful, <b>#9</b>, once you acknowledge that <i>private entities</i> can infringe upon rights just as easily (and often more easily) than the government, you're on the slippery slope toward realizing that libertarianism as currently argued is a bunch of crap. :) <b>Tam:</b> <i>Nope, I don’t see anything about “Right to Shop Anywhere”.</i> I <i>knew</i> there was nothing prohibiting me from opening up my whites-only store! Thanks for clearing that up for me! Careful, #9, once you acknowledge that private entities can infringe upon rights just as easily (and often more easily) than the government, you’re on the slippery slope toward realizing that libertarianism as currently argued is a bunch of crap. :)

Tam:
Nope, I don’t see anything about “Right to Shop Anywhere”.

I knew there was nothing prohibiting me from opening up my whites-only store! Thanks for clearing that up for me!

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195140 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:36:16 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195140 ride=rid ride=rid

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195139 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:35:39 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195139 A long time ago Sears at West Town that had a sound device for security. They left it on during the day. I would avoid Sears because the sound was so irritating. They got ride of that but I still remember how I hated shopping at Sears. Store owners have the right to refuse service. But this is a slippery slope. No matter how annoying these kids are, they have rights also. What next, squirt guns filled with cheap cologne? A long time ago Sears at West Town that had a sound device for security. They left it on during the day. I would avoid Sears because the sound was so irritating. They got ride of that but I still remember how I hated shopping at Sears.

Store owners have the right to refuse service. But this is a slippery slope. No matter how annoying these kids are, they have rights also. What next, squirt guns filled with cheap cologne?

]]> By: Tam http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195127 Tam Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:33:24 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195127 <blockquote>I think Muzak would be free market. Or playing heavy metal to keep out squares. But causing pain, that’s not free market.</blockquote>Let's see... Speech, Bear arms, No searches, Can't have troops bunked on your futon, Free press... Nope, I don't see anything about "Right to Shop Anywhere".

I think Muzak would be free market. Or playing heavy metal to keep out squares. But causing pain, that’s not free market.

Let’s see… Speech, Bear arms, No searches, Can’t have troops bunked on your futon, Free press…

Nope, I don’t see anything about “Right to Shop Anywhere”.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195124 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:11:21 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195124 I think Muzak would be free market. Or playing heavy metal to keep out squares. But causing pain, that's not free market. I think Muzak would be free market. Or playing heavy metal to keep out squares. But causing pain, that’s not free market.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195123 SayUncle Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:46:10 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195123 I dunno, the devices look like the free market to me. And, honestly, pretty innovative. I dunno, the devices look like the free market to me. And, honestly, pretty innovative.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195121 # 9 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:20:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195121 <i>but he seems to be arguing that the sonic devices themselves are the affront to freedom,</i> You win. Was that not clear? I can still hear in that range. Pretty offensive way to treat anyone regardless of their age. but he seems to be arguing that the sonic devices themselves are the affront to freedom,

You win. Was that not clear? I can still hear in that range. Pretty offensive way to treat anyone regardless of their age.

]]> By: Justthisguy http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195118 Justthisguy Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:26:37 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195118 The "mosquito" noise doesn't just annoy the kids, but also autistic grownups. Check out the archives of Justin Buist, who's on your blogroll. Even I, who thinks he's mostly normal, occasionally get annoyed by the noise the TV makes, even with the sound turned all the way off. The “mosquito” noise doesn’t just annoy the kids, but also autistic grownups. Check out the archives of Justin Buist, who’s on your blogroll.

Even I, who thinks he’s mostly normal, occasionally get annoyed by the noise the TV makes, even with the sound turned all the way off.

]]> By: tgirsch http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195114 tgirsch Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:48:10 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195114 <b>thirdpower:</b> Maybe I read #9 differently than you do, but he seems to be arguing that the <i>sonic devices themselves</i> are the affront to freedom, not the move to ban them. Which actually <i>did</i> color me surprised... thirdpower:

Maybe I read #9 differently than you do, but he seems to be arguing that the sonic devices themselves are the affront to freedom, not the move to ban them. Which actually did color me surprised…

]]> By: Metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195105 Metulj Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:01:03 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195105 I guess freedom abounds in Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland and any remaining Crown Protectorates as those are not England. I guess freedom abounds in Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland and any remaining Crown Protectorates as those are not England.

]]> By: Jim W http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195097 Jim W Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:05:05 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195097 Oh wait, my bad, it wasn't the commish, just the spokesman. I guess it was wrong of me to attempt to incorporate it into humor, but oh well. Oh wait, my bad, it wasn’t the commish, just the spokesman. I guess it was wrong of me to attempt to incorporate it into humor, but oh well.

]]> By: Jim W http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195095 Jim W Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:02:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195095 Florida's Commissioner for Families and Children just got arrested for being an avid collector of child pornography. If molestation doesn't keep the kids away from your shop, nothing will. Florida’s Commissioner for Families and Children just got arrested for being an avid collector of child pornography. If molestation doesn’t keep the kids away from your shop, nothing will.

]]> By: trainer http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195094 trainer Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:53:17 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195094 When I was a kid it was rock-salt in a shotgun. When I was a kid it was rock-salt in a shotgun.

]]> By: Nomen Nescio http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195091 Nomen Nescio Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:24:22 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195091 what happened to simply playing classical and jazz music over the PA? what happened to simply playing classical and jazz music over the PA?

]]> By: thirdpower http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/comment-page-1/#comment-195085 thirdpower Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:51:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/12/freedom_is_just_another_wordfor_nothing_left_to_lose/#comment-195085 Before I even clicked on the link I thought "Bet they're trying to outlaw those too". <em>"England's commissioner for children and a civil liberties group joined in on a campaign Tuesday to ban high-frequency devices intended to drive misbehaving children away from shops and other areas.</em> Color me surprised. Before I even clicked on the link I thought “Bet they’re trying to outlaw those too”.

“England’s commissioner for children and a civil liberties group joined in on a campaign Tuesday to ban high-frequency devices intended to drive misbehaving children away from shops and other areas.

Color me surprised.

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