Comments on: Romney on guns http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:09:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bob r http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194667 bob r Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:43:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194667 <blockquote>There is no official church position, but people are allowed to carry inside the churches.</blockquote> NOT true. The Mormon church has <a href="http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFChurch.html" rel="nofollow">registered</a> with the state their intention that firearms are prohibited in 'All "houses of worship" in Utah'. Note also that the Mormon church is the <i>only</i> church in Utah to register a prohibition with the state.

There is no official church position, but people are allowed to carry inside the churches.

NOT true. The Mormon church has registered with the state their intention that firearms are prohibited in ‘All “houses of worship” in Utah’.

Note also that the Mormon church is the only church in Utah to register a prohibition with the state.

]]> By: Hemlock http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194632 Hemlock Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:31:10 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194632 McCain-Feingold stinks to high heaven, but McCain has not signed a never sunsetting assault weapon ban like Romney did in Mass. (and said he liked it!) . With Fred out this is a two issue election for me now. Gun rights and supreme court judges. Thanks to the MSM, we really have some great choices. McCain-Feingold stinks to high heaven, but McCain has not signed a never sunsetting assault weapon ban like Romney did in Mass. (and said he liked it!) . With Fred out this is a two issue election for me now. Gun rights and supreme court judges. Thanks to the MSM, we really have some great choices.

]]> By: Brad http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194631 Brad Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:16:00 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194631 Well, Romney is certainly demonstating a remarkable - flexibility. I think there isn't much question that Romney is pandering to pro-gun Republicans, but at least he feels we are worth pandering to! The sad truth is there are no longer any good choices left among the candidates so it comes down to a choice of the lesser of evils, and in my opinion Romney is the lesser evil. Romney may be a RINO who is doing a slick-willie to win, but that is still better than McCain who has been leading attacks on the 1st Amendment and the 2nd Amendment. Well, Romney is certainly demonstating a remarkable – flexibility. I think there isn’t much question that Romney is pandering to pro-gun Republicans, but at least he feels we are worth pandering to!

The sad truth is there are no longer any good choices left among the candidates so it comes down to a choice of the lesser of evils, and in my opinion Romney is the lesser evil. Romney may be a RINO who is doing a slick-willie to win, but that is still better than McCain who has been leading attacks on the 1st Amendment and the 2nd Amendment.

]]> By: Stan http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194630 Stan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:05:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194630 <blockquote>So this guy was voted in by the exact same electorate that brought us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Mass. in general... </blockquote> Um, epistemological fallacy.

So this guy was voted in by the exact same electorate that brought us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Mass. in general…

Um, epistemological fallacy.

]]> By: Stan http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194629 Stan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:58:15 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194629 <blockquote>How do most Mormons in Utah feel about gun control? I don’t know the answe to that question, but I am sure that Romney would not turn his back on those people. What is the general position of the Mormon church on gun control? That’s the question that you should ask.</blockquote>There is no official church position, but people are allowed to carry inside the churches. Most Mormons are conservative, so most are pro-2A. Also note, quite a few are ignorant, so when you say "assault weapon" they think of evil death rays, that when fired indiscriminately into the air always blow up the nearest PD or elementary school, whichever is closer. I emailed Romney right before and after the FL debate on this subject. I got a reply but accidentally deleted it before I could read it as it was in my Spam folder. I wish I could take credit for his sudden change of heart. I'd like to think he won't turn his back on Utahns and Mormons, and now that he's on record, it'll be much harder for him to relent. But I still don't know if I can trust him.

How do most Mormons in Utah feel about gun control? I don’t know the answe to that question, but I am sure that Romney would not turn his back on those people. What is the general position of the Mormon church on gun control? That’s the question that you should ask.

There is no official church position, but people are allowed to carry inside the churches.

Most Mormons are conservative, so most are pro-2A. Also note, quite a few are ignorant, so when you say “assault weapon” they think of evil death rays, that when fired indiscriminately into the air always blow up the nearest PD or elementary school, whichever is closer.

I emailed Romney right before and after the FL debate on this subject. I got a reply but accidentally deleted it before I could read it as it was in my Spam folder. I wish I could take credit for his sudden change of heart.

I’d like to think he won’t turn his back on Utahns and Mormons, and now that he’s on record, it’ll be much harder for him to relent. But I still don’t know if I can trust him.

]]> By: ben http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194628 ben Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:48:05 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194628 Wow, at least now there's <i>some</i> hope. Before this, it was looking pretty bleak for us gun-nuts. Romney will get my vote if he doesn't flip back. Woe to him should he flip on this while in office. I will personally campaign for Obama in 2012 should that happen. Wow, at least now there’s some hope. Before this, it was looking pretty bleak for us gun-nuts. Romney will get my vote if he doesn’t flip back. Woe to him should he flip on this while in office. I will personally campaign for Obama in 2012 should that happen.

]]> By: johnx http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194622 johnx Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:33:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194622 How do most Mormons in Utah feel about gun control? I don't know the answe to that question, but I am sure that Romney would not turn his back on those people. What is the general position of the Mormon church on gun control? That's the question that you should ask. How do most Mormons in Utah feel about gun control? I don’t know the answe to that question, but I am sure that Romney would not turn his back on those people. What is the general position of the Mormon church on gun control? That’s the question that you should ask.

]]> By: Helvetix http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194620 Helvetix Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:41:35 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194620 So this guy was voted in by the exact same electorate that brought us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Mass. in general. Somehow I'm supposed to believe that Romney is fundamentally different than any of them? So this guy was voted in by the exact same electorate that brought us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Mass. in general. Somehow I’m supposed to believe that Romney is fundamentally different than any of them?

]]> By: Cactus Jack http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194619 Cactus Jack Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:22:31 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194619 Cactus Jack Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week he’ll have a different stance on the same issue. He’s more deserving of the nickname “flipper” than Hanoi Kerry. Rabbit Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction we’d want. Yeah, THIS week. The only thing Romney's consistant on is his inconsistantcy. Cactus Jack Says:

February 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week he’ll have a different stance on the same issue. He’s more deserving of the nickname “flipper” than Hanoi Kerry.

Rabbit Says:

February 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction we’d want.

Yeah, THIS week. The only thing Romney’s consistant on is his inconsistantcy.

]]> By: Fiftycal http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194617 Fiftycal Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:52:54 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194617 Hillary or Obama? I know both of the candidates on the R side are lying scumbags. Which D would screw the country up less in the upcoming 4 years? The main problem I see is that you'll have a D deciding who gets on the Supreme Court. At least 2 replacements are coming up in the next 4 years. Of course the ones that are leaving are liberals anyway, so maybe that won't be a net change. Hillary or Obama? I know both of the candidates on the R side are lying scumbags. Which D would screw the country up less in the upcoming 4 years? The main problem I see is that you’ll have a D deciding who gets on the Supreme Court. At least 2 replacements are coming up in the next 4 years. Of course the ones that are leaving are liberals anyway, so maybe that won’t be a net change.

]]> By: Steve Ramsey http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194614 Steve Ramsey Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:17:49 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194614 McCain's record isn't perfect. But it IS a record. All Romney has are words, words that often contradict his previous words. McCain’s record isn’t perfect. But it IS a record. All Romney has are words, words that often contradict his previous words.

]]> By: Jim W http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194613 Jim W Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:07:03 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194613 Romney's talk on the economy really cheers me up. He gets it in a way that McCain definitely does not. That makes him a solid second choice to Ron Paul IMO. Romney’s talk on the economy really cheers me up. He gets it in a way that McCain definitely does not. That makes him a solid second choice to Ron Paul IMO.

]]> By: Rabbit http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194612 Rabbit Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:50:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194612 Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction we'd want. He's convinced me to not write in Fred Dalton Thompson on my Texas Primary ballot... begrudgingly. Rabbit. Maybe so, but at least the flip is toward the direction we’d want.

He’s convinced me to not write in Fred Dalton Thompson on my Texas Primary ballot… begrudgingly.

Rabbit.

]]> By: # 9 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194610 # 9 Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:27:55 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194610 http://www.pocopattino.com/shoephotos/Haveana-FlipFlop-Gold.jpg http://www.pocopattino.com/shoephotos/Haveana-FlipFlop-Gold.jpg

]]> By: Cactus Jack http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194609 Cactus Jack Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:19:53 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194609 I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week he'll have a different stance on the same issue. He's more deserving of the nickname "flipper" than Hanoi Kerry. I dont believe anything Romney says this week because next week he’ll have a different stance on the same issue. He’s more deserving of the nickname “flipper” than Hanoi Kerry.

]]> By: Adam Lawson http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194608 Adam Lawson Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:13:57 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194608 Romney is no more the say anything candidate than McCain, who has reversed his positions on taxes, immigration, and judges. But the way I see it: Romney has a history of saying things that imply he'd violate rights, while McCain has a history of actually going after them (McCain-Feingold). Romney is no more the say anything candidate than McCain, who has reversed his positions on taxes, immigration, and judges.

But the way I see it: Romney has a history of saying things that imply he’d violate rights, while McCain has a history of actually going after them (McCain-Feingold).

]]> By: Jim W http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194607 Jim W Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:13:16 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194607 I'll take these promises from romney over what the other candidates are offering. I’ll take these promises from romney over what the other candidates are offering.

]]> By: mike123 http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194606 mike123 Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:41:16 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194606 He is now the only candidate that is embracing gun rights. Some might say its an election day conversion. Fine with me. His views on gun rights are moving in our direction and that is good. He is certainly no worse than Hillary, Obama, or McCain. He is better than those three because he wants our vote. I'm a Fred Head and I'm proudly voting for Romney. He is now the only candidate that is embracing gun rights. Some might say its an election day conversion. Fine with me. His views on gun rights are moving in our direction and that is good. He is certainly no worse than Hillary, Obama, or McCain. He is better than those three because he wants our vote.

I’m a Fred Head and I’m proudly voting for Romney.

]]> By: _Jon http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194605 _Jon Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:26:51 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194605 I agree with what most of you are saying. But my point is, the other folks aren't even trying to patronize us - they are all openly saying f-you to peeps like us. At least this guy is offering a reach-around. I agree with what most of you are saying.
But my point is, the other folks aren’t even trying to patronize us – they are all openly saying f-you to peeps like us. At least this guy is offering a reach-around.

]]> By: trainer http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194604 trainer Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:00:22 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194604 Low mileage. One owner. Owned by a little old lady that only drove it to church on Sunday. I listen to Romney and I hear used car salesman. Low mileage.
One owner.
Owned by a little old lady that only drove it to church on Sunday.

I listen to Romney and I hear used car salesman.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194602 SayUncle Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:49:02 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194602 the purpose is that it has to do with guns and politics. and this blog focuses on, err, guns and politics. i didn't say i believed him. the purpose is that it has to do with guns and politics. and this blog focuses on, err, guns and politics. i didn’t say i believed him.

]]> By: LibertyPlease http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194601 LibertyPlease Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:47:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194601 I'm not sure what the purpose of posting this was, as Romney has proven he will say anything, and his <b>actions</b> have been <b>consistently</b> pro-state/anti-rights concerning firearms. Giving this authoritarian windbag any press for known lies is questionable.... I’m not sure what the purpose of posting this was, as Romney has proven he will say anything, and his actions have been consistently pro-state/anti-rights concerning firearms.

Giving this authoritarian windbag any press for known lies is questionable….

]]> By: Linoge http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194600 Linoge Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:41:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194600 Well, considering that he said the exact opposite in the past ( http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm ), I know <em>exactly</em> what he will do in the future, when the chips are on the table. Do whatever gets him the most power, or, barring that, the most popularity. And considering how small of a population segment we People of the Gun are... Well, considering that he said the exact opposite in the past ( http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm ), I know exactly what he will do in the future, when the chips are on the table.

Do whatever gets him the most power, or, barring that, the most popularity. And considering how small of a population segment we People of the Gun are…

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194599 Sebastian Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:38:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194599 Didn't he just say he supported an assault weapons ban a few weeks ago? The problem with Romney is his position will be whatever adviser or interest group is talking to him at that point. Didn’t he just say he supported an assault weapons ban a few weeks ago? The problem with Romney is his position will be whatever adviser or interest group is talking to him at that point.

]]> By: thirdpower http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194598 thirdpower Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:18:33 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194598 He's saying them now. What about two years from now when he needs to suck up to the Dem. vote in Congress? Will he still proclaim his newly acquired NRA membership then? He’s saying them now. What about two years from now when he needs to suck up to the Dem. vote in Congress? Will he still proclaim his newly acquired NRA membership then?

]]> By: _Jon http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-194597 _Jon Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:44:14 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/02/03/romney_on_guns-3/#comment-194597 i <em>was</em> supporting Fred!. :( Given what choices I have left, I saw this: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/01/your-handy-candidate-comparison-chart.html My perspective is that he will say whatever he has to in order to get elected. As will the others. But at least this guy is saying <em>some</em> things I agree with... i was supporting Fred!. :(
Given what choices I have left, I saw this:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/01/your-handy-candidate-comparison-chart.html

My perspective is that he will say whatever he has to in order to get elected. As will the others. But at least this guy is saying some things I agree with…

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