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		<title>By: BadIdeaGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/30/conversion-4/comment-page-1/#comment-194428</link>
		<dc:creator>BadIdeaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points. I&#039;ve come to think about it that the person I&#039;m speaking to who states an &quot;anti&quot; perspective is unlikely to change their mind there and then and say &quot;yeah, you&#039;re right,&quot; and that&#039;s important to remember.  True persuasion will take time to settle in. Anyone who switches ideas instantaneously probably doesn&#039;t have any conviction on the subject.

I consider myself like a Johnny Appleseed of these ideas. My blog is where I&#039;m most open about my views, but with friends/co-workers/family, I just spread little seeds. Sometimes with people the ground isn&#039;t fertile or properly tilled, and the seeds won&#039;t take.  Think about Hurricane Katrina&#039;s aftermath (as reported): that did more to &quot;till the soil&quot; for pro-self-defense gun ownership arguments than you&#039;d think. The seeds planted during that time for me with some of my friends yielded tangible results.

Rather than saying &quot;I have 25000 rounds for my main battle rifle and my house has razor wire, a minefield, and snarling hounds around it&quot; after Katrina, &quot;boy it&#039;s nice to have a shotgun or 45 sitting around&quot; should suffice. 

Then that person gets home and has to think: man, if that (again, as reported) happened in my area, what would I do?

I usually avoid saying &quot;the end is neigh&quot; in these types of conversations as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points. I&#8217;ve come to think about it that the person I&#8217;m speaking to who states an &#8220;anti&#8221; perspective is unlikely to change their mind there and then and say &#8220;yeah, you&#8217;re right,&#8221; and that&#8217;s important to remember.  True persuasion will take time to settle in. Anyone who switches ideas instantaneously probably doesn&#8217;t have any conviction on the subject.</p>
<p>I consider myself like a Johnny Appleseed of these ideas. My blog is where I&#8217;m most open about my views, but with friends/co-workers/family, I just spread little seeds. Sometimes with people the ground isn&#8217;t fertile or properly tilled, and the seeds won&#8217;t take.  Think about Hurricane Katrina&#8217;s aftermath (as reported): that did more to &#8220;till the soil&#8221; for pro-self-defense gun ownership arguments than you&#8217;d think. The seeds planted during that time for me with some of my friends yielded tangible results.</p>
<p>Rather than saying &#8220;I have 25000 rounds for my main battle rifle and my house has razor wire, a minefield, and snarling hounds around it&#8221; after Katrina, &#8220;boy it&#8217;s nice to have a shotgun or 45 sitting around&#8221; should suffice. </p>
<p>Then that person gets home and has to think: man, if that (again, as reported) happened in my area, what would I do?</p>
<p>I usually avoid saying &#8220;the end is neigh&#8221; in these types of conversations as well.</p>
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		<title>By: straightarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>straightarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know Sebastian PGP, are we good or bad according to tgirsch.  I couldn&#039;t tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know Sebastian PGP, are we good or bad according to tgirsch.  I couldn&#8217;t tell.</p>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a mostly-pro-gun moderate and ex-fence-sitter, I feel I&#039;m qualified to remark on this.

For the first type, I&#039;d also strongly suggest keeping them away from the hysterical &lt;i&gt;pro&lt;/i&gt;-gunners (i.e., that crazy talk about revolution you mentioned in the next paragraph).  It&#039;s going to make a &lt;i&gt;very big difference&lt;/i&gt; to the on-the-fence person if their first experience is someone like &lt;b&gt;Sebastian-PGP&lt;/b&gt; or someone like &lt;b&gt;straightarrow&lt;/b&gt;.  First impressions matter, and PR matters!

For the second type, your analysis is essentially spot on.  Going all apeshit (like many commenters have done to, say, KTK on our blog) is exactly counterproductive.  I&#039;d also recommend that, while sticking to calmly citing facts, you try to avoid getting into Kevin Baker-esque verbosity.  :)  (Sorry, KB...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a mostly-pro-gun moderate and ex-fence-sitter, I feel I&#8217;m qualified to remark on this.</p>
<p>For the first type, I&#8217;d also strongly suggest keeping them away from the hysterical <i>pro</i>-gunners (i.e., that crazy talk about revolution you mentioned in the next paragraph).  It&#8217;s going to make a <i>very big difference</i> to the on-the-fence person if their first experience is someone like <b>Sebastian-PGP</b> or someone like <b>straightarrow</b>.  First impressions matter, and PR matters!</p>
<p>For the second type, your analysis is essentially spot on.  Going all apeshit (like many commenters have done to, say, KTK on our blog) is exactly counterproductive.  I&#8217;d also recommend that, while sticking to calmly citing facts, you try to avoid getting into Kevin Baker-esque verbosity.  <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   (Sorry, KB&#8230;)</p>
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