Comments on: So Long Citi-Cards http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:09:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193271 SayUncle Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:54:11 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193271 Thanks for the update! Thanks for the update!

]]> By: Largenfirm http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193270 Largenfirm Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:37:22 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193270 Email response from questions@firstdata.com <blockquote>Thank you for your message. The posting at www.nssf.org regarding Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp. is inaccurate. Further, while we generally do not comment on individual merchant customers, we would like to briefly address the 12/26 letter posted on the web site. Regretfully, that letter did a less than satisfactory job of expressing applicable policies. Those policies are more properly detailed below. Citi Merchant Services and First Data do process firearms transactions. Our policy restrictions address only the sale of firearms in a non face-to-face environment. Non face-to-face transactions occur when a cardholder is not present in front of a merchant and includes mail order and online purchases. It is our policy not to service merchants that make non face-to-face sales in a number of industries, including firearms. It is not the policy of Citi Merchant Services or First Data to refuse to process transactions from duly licensed merchants that sell firearms in face-to-face transactions at the point of sale. Please direct any questions to Questions@firstdata.com. The posting also incorrectly states that Robert Tenenbaum is the supervisor when, in fact, he is not.</blockquote> Email response from questions@firstdata.com

Thank you for your message. The posting at http://www.nssf.org regarding Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp. is inaccurate. Further, while we generally do not comment on individual merchant customers, we would like to briefly address the 12/26 letter posted on the web site. Regretfully, that letter did a less than satisfactory job of expressing applicable policies. Those policies are more properly detailed below.

Citi Merchant Services and First Data do process firearms transactions. Our policy restrictions address only the sale of firearms in a non face-to-face environment. Non face-to-face transactions occur when a cardholder is not present in front of a merchant and includes mail order and online purchases. It is our policy not to service merchants that make non face-to-face sales in a number of industries, including firearms.

It is not the policy of Citi Merchant Services or First Data to refuse to process transactions from duly licensed merchants that sell firearms in face-to-face transactions at the point of sale.

Please direct any questions to Questions@firstdata.com.

The posting also incorrectly states that Robert Tenenbaum is the supervisor when, in fact, he is not.

]]> By: Largenfirm http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193269 Largenfirm Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:27:09 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193269 (sent to investor relations at First Data Corporation) TO: fdc.ir@firstdata.com I recently received a press release from the National Shooting Sports Foundation, alleging that First Data Corporation is refusing to perform legal credit card transactions between Federal Firearms License holders. Checking into this allegation, I discovered that FDC had closed the account of CDNN, a FFL in Texas, and confiscated funds in that account, alleging that CDNN was illegally shipping firearms to non-licensees outside of Texas. CDNN denies this, and, as the controlling Federal agency, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) has not taken their license, nor charged them with any felonies, leading me to believe that the FDC allegations are false or mistaken. As an FDC shareholder, I am concerned that the company may be opening itself to litigation and customer retaliation with this over aggressive cancellation/confiscation of the accounts of law abiding individuals and corporations. A quick scan of pro-firearms sites on the Internet suggests there are a great many customers of FDC who are upset about this action. Please investigate, and determine who put this policy in place, how it is justified, and what remedial action must be taken to correct this mistaken behavior on the part of over-zealous FDC employees. Kindest, Kirk Hays (sent to investor relations at First Data Corporation)

TO: fdc.ir@firstdata.com

I recently received a press release from the National Shooting Sports Foundation, alleging that First Data Corporation is refusing to perform legal credit card transactions between Federal Firearms License holders.

Checking into this allegation, I discovered that FDC had closed the account of CDNN, a FFL in Texas, and confiscated funds in that account, alleging that CDNN was illegally shipping firearms to non-licensees outside of Texas.

CDNN denies this, and, as the controlling Federal agency, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) has not taken their license, nor charged them with any felonies, leading me to believe that the FDC allegations are false or mistaken.

As an FDC shareholder, I am concerned that the company may be opening itself to litigation and customer retaliation with this over aggressive cancellation/confiscation of the accounts of law abiding individuals and corporations. A quick scan of pro-firearms sites on the Internet suggests there are a great many customers of FDC who are upset about this action.

Please investigate, and determine who put this policy in place, how it is justified, and what remedial action must be taken to correct this mistaken behavior on the part of over-zealous FDC employees.

Kindest,
Kirk Hays

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193234 Anonymous Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:52:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193234 For reasons I cannot go into I am not able to post these. But by all means... They are all verified addresses. <strong>june.rivera-mantilla@firstdata.com june.rivera-mantilla@firstdatacorp.com june.rivera@firstdata.com june.rivera@firstdatacorp.com</strong> For reasons I cannot go into I am not able to post these. But by all means… They are all verified addresses.

june.rivera-mantilla@firstdata.com
june.rivera-mantilla@firstdatacorp.com
june.rivera@firstdata.com
june.rivera@firstdatacorp.com

]]> By: Ravenwood http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193222 Ravenwood Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:48:52 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193222 I would cancel any bank card that tells me what I can and can't buy. Even if it was pink tutus. I would cancel any bank card that tells me what I can and can’t buy. Even if it was pink tutus.

]]> By: Regolith http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193122 Regolith Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:11:59 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193122 I've been hating city since before it was cool :P They have very shifty business practices all around. I am not at all surprised to see this from them. I’ve been hating city since before it was cool :P

They have very shifty business practices all around. I am not at all surprised to see this from them.

]]> By: Cactus Jack http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193106 Cactus Jack Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:40:42 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193106 FYI to those who're planning on canceling Citi-bank and are looking for someone else to bank with; do NOT go to Wells Fargo! I had a checking account with them for 5 months and they screwed up EVERYTHING! My direct deposit was'nt credited to my account for as much as a week after payday, checks were bounced when there were plenty of funds in the account, the debit card never worked. I've know several other people who had the same problems and others as well. I know now why Joaquin Murrietta, Black Bart and Butch Cassidy robbed Wells Fargo so ofton; they must have had checking accounts with them! :) FYI to those who’re planning on canceling Citi-bank and are looking for someone else to bank with; do NOT go to Wells Fargo! I had a checking account with them for 5 months and they screwed up EVERYTHING! My direct deposit was’nt credited to my account for as much as a week after payday, checks were bounced when there were plenty of funds in the account, the debit card never worked. I’ve know several other people who had the same problems and others as well.

I know now why Joaquin Murrietta, Black Bart and Butch Cassidy robbed Wells Fargo so ofton; they must have had checking accounts with them! :)

]]> By: John Hardin http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193098 John Hardin Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:09:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193098 Okay, here are some alternatives: http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=creditcard http://www.nraaccounts.com/nra/index.jsp Any others? Okay, here are some alternatives:

http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=creditcard

http://www.nraaccounts.com/nra/index.jsp

Any others?

]]> By: JKB http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193096 JKB Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:03:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193096 Not a smart move on their part given the average Cabelas' customer has a FICO of 750 and spends a lot of money. Not to mention credit card debt is starting to default so it isn't smart to anger good borrowers. But then Citigoup is probably not long for this world due to their poor mortgage bets. Already lost their CEO and had to sell a big chunk to Abu Dhabi just to stay afloat. http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2007/11/27/citigroup-subprime-borrower/ Not a smart move on their part given the average Cabelas’ customer has a FICO of 750 and spends a lot of money. Not to mention credit card debt is starting to default so it isn’t smart to anger good borrowers.

But then Citigoup is probably not long for this world due to their poor mortgage bets. Already lost their CEO and had to sell a big chunk to Abu Dhabi just to stay afloat.

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2007/11/27/citigroup-subprime-borrower/

]]> By: KCSteve http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193091 KCSteve Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193091 When you call Ms. Rivera-Mantilla (and her supervisor) to let them know about the cards you're closing make sure you let them know that you'll be explaining to the Merchants / banks involved just <b>why</b> you're closing the card - and make sure you <b>do</b> let them know. When you call Ms. Rivera-Mantilla (and her supervisor) to let them know about the cards you’re closing make sure you let them know that you’ll be explaining to the Merchants / banks involved just why you’re closing the card – and make sure you do let them know.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193075 SayUncle Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:03 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193075 Thanks for the pointer. Thanks for the pointer.

]]> By: Metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193074 Metulj Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:02:31 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193074 Oh, BTW. Watch how you handle Citi and closing accounts with them. They are very shifty about keeping cards open even after you ask. Send a letter via certified mail asking that they shut the card down and be sure to have the card number and the Citi account number in that letter. They might be different and they won't act unless you are very, very clear. I got dunned for $365 on a card that I closed with them for fees and had to settle (which shows on the old credit report). If you like your credit, be very careful with Citi. Oh, BTW. Watch how you handle Citi and closing accounts with them. They are very shifty about keeping cards open even after you ask. Send a letter via certified mail asking that they shut the card down and be sure to have the card number and the Citi account number in that letter. They might be different and they won’t act unless you are very, very clear. I got dunned for $365 on a card that I closed with them for fees and had to settle (which shows on the old credit report). If you like your credit, be very careful with Citi.

]]> By: Metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193073 Metulj Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:59:07 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193073 Jesus. Even I think that's stupid. :) I just bought a block of Wells Fargo. I didn't even consider Citi (worst institutional lender in the world - cards, loans, you name it). Jesus. Even I think that’s stupid. :) I just bought a block of Wells Fargo. I didn’t even consider Citi (worst institutional lender in the world – cards, loans, you name it).

]]> By: ben http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193065 ben Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:22:53 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193065 I have a Wells Fargo card. They even have that wagon thing with the dude with a double barrel shotgun as their mascot. If they had a London branch, they'd probably be forced to replace the shotgun with an Elmo. I have a Wells Fargo card. They even have that wagon thing with the dude with a double barrel shotgun as their mascot. If they had a London branch, they’d probably be forced to replace the shotgun with an Elmo.

]]> By: Dave thA http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193063 Dave thA Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:43:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193063 <a href="http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=19" rel="nofollow"> Back in 2000 too - SAF calls for boycott</a>

Back in 2000 too – SAF calls for boycott

]]> By: Kevin Baker http://www.saysuncle.com/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-193062 Kevin Baker Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:38:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/01/08/so_long_citi-cards/#comment-193062 Well, I won't be getting a CitiBank account or credit card of any kind, and I'm glad my wife hasn't worked for First Data for about a decade now. Well, I won’t be getting a CitiBank account or credit card of any kind, and I’m glad my wife hasn’t worked for First Data for about a decade now.

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