Comments on: Church Shooters Guns

By: Jim W

Jim W — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:15:36 +0000

In all fairness, it isn’t a de facto registry because you can only trace the gun once you already have it in your possession. The whole argument against registration is that it tells the government and criminals where the guns are, facilitating theft and confiscation. Since this “registration” only applies to guns that are already in the government’s physical custody, that argument doesn’t really hold.

Now, in all fairness to our side, I think two parts of the current system are broken:
-20 year retention is unnecessary since any gun that hasn’t been used in a crime in the first 5 years of it’s life is unlikely to have a particularly informative ownership trail
-the “surrender records to the ATF when you go out of business” rule IS creating a de facto registry when combined with the 20 year retention policy

Then there is the issue of requiring an expensive FFL and additionally requiring that FFL to be a full business with a storefront and regular hours is way too oppressive a burden upon such a fundamental right. You can’t use an enumerated power (regulating interstate commerce) to extinguish a fundamental right, which is very clearly the purpose of the current regulatory and enforcement activity.

By: Cactus Jack

Cactus Jack — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:14 +0000

“That�s coming from the police, so I�m betting it�s accurate. The earlier reports, I imagine, are a result of reporters not knowing their ass from a hole in the ground.”

No, it aint accurate. The Bushmaster XM15 is NOT a “assault rifle” and any “AK-47″ or varient of it that can be purchased at a sporting goods store in the USA aint a “assault rifle” either. Both are SEMI-AUTOMATIC only and therefore not “assault rifles”. The cops aint no better than the media.

By: Tam

Tam — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:03:55 +0000

If we had a de facto firearms registry, I could find out what guns Say Uncle owns.

As it is, if I actually have my hands on Say Uncle’s guns, I can find out where most of them came from.

By: Oldsmoblogger

Oldsmoblogger — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:02:11 +0000

Private transfer is your friend.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:44 +0000

That’s unpossible. Chuck Schumer tells us the police can’t trace those guns back the point of purchase, because George Bush is in the NRA’s underpants.

Or something like that.

Don’t tell me Chucky and Bloomberg have been lying to us all these years. My reality-isolation bubble couldn’t handle the shock.

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:31:42 +0000

Maybe the initial coroner’s report mistook a dozen closely spaced .355″ (9mm) wounds for a 000 shotgun blast?

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:22:16 +0000

That’s coming from the police, so I’m betting it’s accurate. The earlier reports, I imagine, are a result of reporters not knowing their ass from a hole in the ground.