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		<title>By: James of England</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-186430</link>
		<dc:creator>James of England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UN doesn&#039;t have much in the way enforcement capabilities, but these things are often used to support claims about international customary law, which the US courts will often apply as American law. For American courts the age of &quot;now let them try to enforce it&quot; has long passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN doesn&#8217;t have much in the way enforcement capabilities, but these things are often used to support claims about international customary law, which the US courts will often apply as American law. For American courts the age of &#8220;now let them try to enforce it&#8221; has long passed.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-186135</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIce Job on KnoxNews.

Dave Kopel picked up on it &lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_10_28-2007_11_03.shtml#1194117113&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIce Job on KnoxNews.</p>
<p>Dave Kopel picked up on it <a href="http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_10_28-2007_11_03.shtml#1194117113" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185997</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, and insty. nice traffic spike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, and insty. nice traffic spike!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Montag</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185993</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that you got posted to The Corner at National Review?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that you got posted to The Corner at National Review?</p>
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		<title>By: blackfork</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185969</link>
		<dc:creator>blackfork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seals it.  I&#039;m voting, sending money, putting up a yardsign, et, et for FRED THOMPSON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seals it.  I&#8217;m voting, sending money, putting up a yardsign, et, et for FRED THOMPSON.</p>
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		<title>By: Sly Bri</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185888</link>
		<dc:creator>Sly Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare we not listen to the UN?  Their interpretation of self-defense must be obeyed, all of our laws and customs be damned!

I would never vote for that gun nut Fred Thompson, who wants people to blow away a poor innocent soul who is merely entering your house looking for food because of Bush&#039;s tax cuts for the rich, Haliburton (uh, wait, Blackwater is the evil company of the hour), Blackwater, Big Oil, Big Gun, Big Tobacco, Big Tree Choppers, and Big Hamburger taking away all the money for themselves and their CEOs!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare we not listen to the UN?  Their interpretation of self-defense must be obeyed, all of our laws and customs be damned!</p>
<p>I would never vote for that gun nut Fred Thompson, who wants people to blow away a poor innocent soul who is merely entering your house looking for food because of Bush&#8217;s tax cuts for the rich, Haliburton (uh, wait, Blackwater is the evil company of the hour), Blackwater, Big Oil, Big Gun, Big Tobacco, Big Tree Choppers, and Big Hamburger taking away all the money for themselves and their CEOs!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JorgXMcKie</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185879</link>
		<dc:creator>JorgXMcKie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Other effective measures should also be enforced to protect the right to life,&quot; -- so, the UN is anti-abortion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Other effective measures should also be enforced to protect the right to life,&#8221; &#8212; so, the UN is anti-abortion?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185876</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per the douchefilter at the carpetbagger report&#039;s claim that it only applies to Sierra Leone and Rwanda, here&#039;s the UN press release including this statement by the Mexican representative.  You decide if he&#039;s referring to &quot;Sierra Leone&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;LEON FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ ZAHAR (Mexico), aligning himself with the statement of the Central American Integration System, said that &lt;strong&gt;Mexico, as a country which had been strongly affected by the illicit small arms trade, attached the highest priority to that matter&lt;/strong&gt;.  It could only be solved by means of international cooperation, under the principle of shared responsibility, with the active participation of governmental and non-governmental actors.  &lt;strong&gt;All States, together with producers, importers and exporters of arms, and non-governmental organizations must redouble their efforts towards achieving the objectives of the United Nations Programme of Action&lt;/strong&gt;. 

He said that &lt;strong&gt;the excessive accumulation and availability of small arms, as well as the weakness of regulation in several countries, had frequently led to a diversion of such weapons into the black market, leading to urban violence and organized crime &lt;/strong&gt;. With that in mind, Mexico had consistently supported the resolution on the illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, which had been introduced each year by the delegations of Colombia, Japan, and South Africa. 

However, he urged the adoption of binding measures in the struggle against that illicit arms trade.  &lt;strong&gt;Further, the Programme of Action must take into account the multidimensional character of the issue, including its humanitarian aspects, in order to develop new means of achieving the effective control of commerce and transfer of small arms and light weapons, including their possession by civilians.  &lt;/strong&gt;

If you don’t think that the diplodunks at the 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2007/gadis3354.doc.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per the douchefilter at the carpetbagger report&#8217;s claim that it only applies to Sierra Leone and Rwanda, here&#8217;s the UN press release including this statement by the Mexican representative.  You decide if he&#8217;s referring to &#8220;Sierra Leone&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>LEON FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ ZAHAR (Mexico), aligning himself with the statement of the Central American Integration System, said that <strong>Mexico, as a country which had been strongly affected by the illicit small arms trade, attached the highest priority to that matter</strong>.  It could only be solved by means of international cooperation, under the principle of shared responsibility, with the active participation of governmental and non-governmental actors.  <strong>All States, together with producers, importers and exporters of arms, and non-governmental organizations must redouble their efforts towards achieving the objectives of the United Nations Programme of Action</strong>. </p>
<p>He said that <strong>the excessive accumulation and availability of small arms, as well as the weakness of regulation in several countries, had frequently led to a diversion of such weapons into the black market, leading to urban violence and organized crime </strong>. With that in mind, Mexico had consistently supported the resolution on the illicit traffic in small arms and light weapons, which had been introduced each year by the delegations of Colombia, Japan, and South Africa. </p>
<p>However, he urged the adoption of binding measures in the struggle against that illicit arms trade.  <strong>Further, the Programme of Action must take into account the multidimensional character of the issue, including its humanitarian aspects, in order to develop new means of achieving the effective control of commerce and transfer of small arms and light weapons, including their possession by civilians.  </strong></p>
<p>If you don’t think that the diplodunks at the
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<p><a href="http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2007/gadis3354.doc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2007/gadis3354.doc.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gunstar1</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185815</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunstar1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle regarding the last point you made:

It is worse than what you responded with when referenceing the part about Article 51...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Report, bottom of page 2:

Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations applies to States acting in self-defence against armed attacks against their State sovereignty. It does not apply to situations of self-defence for individual persons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Goldberg said that the Article 51 proves Thompson wrong when in fact what the report is trying to do is prove what Goldberg said about Article 51 is wrong.  Which is that Article 51 is a (sovereign) state&#039;s right to self defense and not an individual one.  

Does that report&#039;s argument/reasoning sound familiar to anyone else besides me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle regarding the last point you made:</p>
<p>It is worse than what you responded with when referenceing the part about Article 51&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Report, bottom of page 2:</p>
<p>Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations applies to States acting in self-defence against armed attacks against their State sovereignty. It does not apply to situations of self-defence for individual persons.</p></blockquote>
<p>Goldberg said that the Article 51 proves Thompson wrong when in fact what the report is trying to do is prove what Goldberg said about Article 51 is wrong.  Which is that Article 51 is a (sovereign) state&#8217;s right to self defense and not an individual one.  </p>
<p>Does that report&#8217;s argument/reasoning sound familiar to anyone else besides me?</p>
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		<title>By: Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fred Got it Right</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185765</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fred Got it Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SayUncle details that Fred Thompson was actually right about the UN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SayUncle details that Fred Thompson was actually right about the UN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Volunteer Voters &#187; Fred Thompson UNgunned</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/11/01/un_guns_and_thompson/comment-page-1/#comment-185761</link>
		<dc:creator>Volunteer Voters &#187; Fred Thompson UNgunned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Say Uncle points to a gaffe made recently by Fred Thompson. Yesterday the blogs were effusive in their praise for Fred Thompson&#8217;s stand against the UN mandates on gun control. It turns out that all that bluster in defiance of UN tyranny on guns was based on some faulty intel. The Carpetbagger Report: Keep in mind, unlike most of Thompsonâ€™s other gaffes, this one was written down. He wasnâ€™t just winging it on the stump; this was a specific policy position.   Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Say Uncle points to a gaffe made recently by Fred Thompson. Yesterday the blogs were effusive in their praise for Fred Thompson&#8217;s stand against the UN mandates on gun control. It turns out that all that bluster in defiance of UN tyranny on guns was based on some faulty intel. The Carpetbagger Report: Keep in mind, unlike most of Thompsonâ€™s other gaffes, this one was written down. He wasnâ€™t just winging it on the stump; this was a specific policy position.   Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gattsuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>gattsuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left a nice, long comment, although I won&#039;t be surprised to see it vanish down the memory hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left a nice, long comment, although I won&#8217;t be surprised to see it vanish down the memory hole.</p>
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