Comments on: They’re illegal here too

By: SayUncle » Gun shows and Mexico

SayUncle » Gun shows and Mexico — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:39:03 +0000

[...] I was going to blast this bit by Paul Helmke in which he parrots untruths about Mexico and gun shows but Thirdpower reminded me that I already did. [...]

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:11:49 +0000

Yeah, If I was a drug kingpin in Mexico, I would need a place to put all that cash, so I would come to the U.S. and spend hundreds of dollars for a semi-automatic copy of the real machine gun I could get for $50 in most of the rest of the world. Makes sense to me. Uh huh. Sure it does.

By: JKB

JKB — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:31:04 +0000

Let’s see, firearms difficult to come by in the US being smuggled into Mexico in violation of US export laws and Mexican importation laws? Perhaps the Mexican government might like to join with the US for a joint effort to secure the common border.

Seems more likely, weapons left over from the wars from Nicaragua and El Salvador are making their way north. Or from Cuba, Venezuela, or Panama. Easier to smuggle weapons into the country across the southern border into the Chiapas region, which had an armed insurgency ten years ago than run the US border patrol gauntlet.

Interesting the Mexican police officers were charged with state weapons misconduct and not federal charges. Also, if they had let them try to cross the border, they could have gotten them on violation of US International Traffic in Arms Regulations, which requires little proof other than having the weapons in their possession as they try to cross the border and subjects them to criminal, civil and administrative penalties. ITAR is a nice bit of bureaucratic hell.

By: Les Jones

Les Jones — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:49:32 +0000

For your 26th birthday you’re supposed to get something in .36 caliber – .357 Magnum, 9mm, that sort of thing. You can tell your wife I said it was OK.

By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Mexican Gang Wars

Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Mexican Gang Wars — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:00:27 +0000

[...] is correct to point out that machine guns are just as illegal here as they are in Mexico, yet they keep blaming American [...]

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:40:54 +0000

This is simply a case of one tyrannical government and one would be tyrannical government aiding each other in propaganda machinations to achieve more state power for each of the participants at the expense of their citizens.

By: Sigivald

Sigivald — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:59:46 +0000

markm: Yes, many of them, all relatively low-volume, as far as I know. Though I think they all use some/many foreign-made parts. A Federal Official Said: "in violation of a law barring non-citizens from purchasing firearms". Funny, last time I looked on a 4473 there was no ban on non-citizens buying guns. Sure, you need to be a legal immigrant alien or have a hunting license if you're a legal non-immigrant alien. (See here. Note how a "non-US" answer to question 10 is not a disqualifier, and the existence of questions 11, 12 part l, and 13; 18c on the second page, and notice 6 on page 3. But why would a mere federal official talking about the legality of firearms purchases know anything you can know merely by reading the form everyone has to fill out to purchase a gun from a dealer?)

By: drstrangegun

drstrangegun — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:28 +0000

*wink*

Oh my GOD it’s HORRIBLE! We should seal the border IMMEDIATELY for the CHILDREN!!!

By: markm

markm — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:15:44 +0000

Are there even any US manufacturers of AK-47’s?

Regardless, I agree that the ones being used by Mexican gangsters are far more likely to be of Chinese or other former communist block manufacture. They made enough AK-47’s to arm most of the world’s armies, and the surplus easily makes it to the black market. The Mexicans would be far better off if they could legally import American made semi-autos instead of smuggling in full-autos of indifferent accuracy and questionable workmanship and condition…

By: Alcibiades McZombie

Alcibiades McZombie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:44:00 +0000

This is kind of a “moral panic”, but for guns. It could be called a “gun panic”.

By: Cactus Jack

Cactus Jack — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:58:59 +0000

“estimate that 100 percent of drug-related killings are committed with smuggled U.S. weapons.”

They expect us to believe that there’s NO other source? Sure. That’d be like us saying that 100% of the crimes committed in the USA are done by illegals from Mexico.

By: BobG

BobG — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:43:11 +0000

I want to know what gun shows I can go to where they sell grenades.

By: thirdpower

thirdpower — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:17:47 +0000

The used Wintemute as a source. Enough said there.

By: DirtCrashr

DirtCrashr — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:17:26 +0000

When we do find AK’s in CA, it seems that the Chinese are behind it. It happened ten years ago, but they’re nothing if not persistent – and how much more easy it would be to grease a few hands and smuggle AK’s straight into Mexico, given the graft and corruption that’s endemic?
“2,000″ – maybe that’s where they got the magical-thinking “2,000″ number?

By: SayUncle » Assault Weapons Ban Push Returns

SayUncle » Assault Weapons Ban Push Returns — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:38:05 +0000

[...] bit from the aforementioned WaPo bit on guns in Mexico: But law enforcement officers on both sides of the border have never seen anything like the flood [...]

By: anon

anon — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:33:18 +0000

Hmmm… 2000 guns per day. 365 days per year. That’s 730,000 guns per year.
Sorry, gotta raise the BS flag on that one.

even better (from the article):
“[the Tijuana police director] has just 150 AR-15 rifles to spread among 3,000 officers. Arms smugglers bring more than that into Mexico in a typical two-hour period.”

That’s 150x(24/2)x365 = 657,000 AR’s per year. Do all US manufacturers combined even make that many?

This article is pure libtard propaganda. The Washington Post is a rag.

By: Jim W

Jim W — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:54:07 +0000

Not to mention that anything remotely resembling an AK-47 has been illegal in CA for years…