Comments on: They’ve tried it and failed

By: Uncle says, “Bring it.” at Traction Control

Uncle says, “Bring it.” at Traction Control — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:34:21 +0000

[...] Like (he) said before, bring it. [...]

By: SayUncle » It’s unpossible

SayUncle » It’s unpossible — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:09:07 +0000

[...] Like I said before, bring it. [...]

By: SayUncle » almost exclusively of white men from suburban and rural areas

SayUncle » almost exclusively of white men from suburban and rural areas — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:29:53 +0000

[...] tell Laura Washington but a Black Woman Leads Important Self Defense [...]

By: Nylarthotep

Nylarthotep — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:22:44 +0000

BTW, I would agree that the �People of the Gun� t-shirt/hoodie set sounds pretty cool, but then if Uncle has some printed up and I don�t buy them he�ll make me feel guilty!

Heh, Yeah, I went down the guilt path this AM. Just bought a couple.

Not work friendly, but I’ll wear them on weekends.

By: SayUncle » Gun Blogger Rendezvous Update

SayUncle » Gun Blogger Rendezvous Update — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:33:59 +0000

[...] And those attendees are, of course, coming to plunk down a ton of cash in my lap. Just ask Laura Washington. [...]

By: FreedomSight » Blog Archive » AR a People of the Gun?

FreedomSight » Blog Archive » AR a People of the Gun? — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:07:07 +0000

[...] Gun collection, over at People of the Gun. It’s a reference to yet another gun-fearing-wussie coming up with a label which is, I guess, supposed to be [...]

By: SayUncle » Coalition of one

SayUncle » Coalition of one — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:22:06 +0000

[...] Joyce Foundation Astroturf. And remember, I’m the one who’s supposedly getting cash plunked down in my lap from the evil gun lobby. Or is it gun manufacturers? I keep forgetting who I shill [...]

By: DirtCrashr

DirtCrashr — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:08:17 +0000

Cash?? They’re gonna give me cash?? Cold hard cash???
There was a time when Black churches, like the one where Condi’s father preached, organized with guns to protect themselves from night-riders and the KKK. Sheesh, get some History babe.

By: 1894C

1894C — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:06:18 +0000

Gunowners defined by SayUncle:

“We are many.
We are passionate.
We are right.
We are active.
And we are smarter.”

LOVE IT!!!!

By: Don Gwinn

Don Gwinn — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:12:58 +0000

She has no idea what she’s asking for here. Those black churches and black sororities and fraternities could set up such networks, but the thing about setting up a network as opposed to sending out a newsletter is that the “leadership” doesn’t really control a network. The people out there on the network will use it for their own ends, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

In short, if a black sorority forms a network like the pro-gun message boards, then we’ll see what the members of that sorority REALLY think. Her assumption that they’ll automatically work for gun control because they’re black will only lead her to heartbreak. Being black doesn’t make you anti-gun.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:32:32 +0000

I have left four comments with “The Culturologist” over the past few months, and while none of them have had links contained within them, none of them were displayed. Little matter… he is hardly worth the time, and the one instance where I cared, I simply wrote the comment as a post on my weblog. That much he cannot control.

No worries about not buying it, Sebastian. If one person does, that is sufficient. Might wait a day or so to see if anyone has any suggestions.

By: Justin Buist

Justin Buist — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:13:59 +0000

The Culturologist has published every one of my comments. It usually takes about a day, but they do get posted.

Just keep them short, on topic, and don’t bring too many citations to the table. Typical blog software will flag anything with more than 3 links in it as SPAM. Keep that in mind.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:55:58 +0000

Oh… now I see it.. weird. A reload seems to have fixed it. It looks good, but to be honest, I’m not buying one. I like “People of the Gun”, but most people won’t get it, and I already have way too much pro-gun stuff I can’t wear to work.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:55:36 +0000

Yeah, that was me screwing up transparencies. Sorry about that, but please try again.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:54:47 +0000

I make it out to be a sheet of black. I don’t see anything.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:28:25 +0000

Alrighty gentlemen and ladies, what make you of this: http://www.wallsofthecity.net/images/peopleofthegun.gif The primary image is, of course, large enough for CafePress applications.

By: Chas

Chas — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:42:42 +0000

The anti’s did well in the days before the Internet. They owned the media. It was just like Pravda in the Soviet Union. They could put the anti-gun spin on everything because there were only 3 TV networks and PBS, and newspapers. They allowed only such dissent as they could laugh at.
Now there’s the Internet and they can only get away with their nonsense when they can’t get called on it.
There are still too many one-way, Pravdaesque communications. The New York Times, and too many other newspapers’ editorials and opinion pieces, still don’t allow comments. Yet.

By: Gunstar1

Gunstar1 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:03:05 +0000

Hey Uncle thanks for the link, but your off by a zero on the funding by Joyce Foundation of blogs. The FSA, which seems to be most of Joyce’s internet only funding (no physical group, just websites… including Gonzo’s), is not $60K, it is $650K. Big difference.

Also not only do I not make a dime off my website, nor does anyone pay me money to run it. So every month when it is time to pay the hosting bill, it is my own cold hard cash that is plunked down.

By: blackfork

blackfork — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:48:08 +0000

I’m a native Texan and I hereby annoit Soyer as “Bubba Jeff”. It may just be a ceremonial title with no pickup attached, but still worth a lot.

By: SayUncle

SayUncle — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:24:21 +0000

I tried shirts before and you folks didn't buy them.

By: Nomen Nescio

Nomen Nescio — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:15:20 +0000

the “people of the gun” hoodie needs a hood large enough to accommodate earmuffs. i’ll have one in dark grey, men’s size L.

By: Cactus Jack

Cactus Jack — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:07:40 +0000

“I wonder why gun control advocates presume that the pro-gun blogosphere is a big conspiracy bankrolled by the NRA, instead of what it really is, a true grassroots effort by smart people who are passionate about liberty.”

That’s because the antis get bankrolled (bribed) to do their thing and cant comprehend people standing up for their rights without being payed off for doing so. FYI antis, It’s called DEDICATION.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:24:20 +0000

Hell, I would be willing to make up that kind of design for CafePress, but something tells me someone will beat me to it…

By: Clint

Clint — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:00:50 +0000

Remember, this is the same Laura Washington who was freaking out a month ago (the infamous “shove it down their throats” article), as the first link in Uncle’s post notes. This latest wasrte of monitor space seems so akin to the last that I have to wonder if she is merely looking for traffic. Same surveys mentioned, same accusations of some bottomless money well supplying bloggers, legislators, or whoever is to blame this week. Despite the voluminous scoldings and corrections she received, she still has nothing new to offer. No new evidence, no revelations, no, if you will, smoking gun.

BTW, I would agree that the “People of the Gun” t-shirt/hoodie set sounds pretty cool, but then if Uncle has some printed up and I don’t buy them he’ll make me feel guilty!

By: Tam

Tam — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:51:31 +0000

All I want to know is “Where’s my Triangle of Death payola?” Cheap bastiges.

By: Alcibiades McZombie

Alcibiades McZombie — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:46:36 +0000

The NRA website really needs to get rid of that front page with the heavy Flash content.

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:44:25 +0000

Instead of organizing in black churches, perhaps Ms. Washington would do more for her people by demanding black families squash the thuggish tendencies out of their murdering children.

49% of murder victims are black, ok, I’ll accept that! What is the percentage of murderers of that 49% being black?

As a man I used to read often and whom I admire, in comments at another site noted, he was shouted down and vilified for pointing out that his congregation was blaming “whitey” for the murder of a young black man in their neighborhood when the only white persons involved were the police who showed up to investigate the murder. Oh, I should mention, he is black just in case someone doesn’t get it.

Obviously he wasn’t black enough to suit those people who refuse to live in reality.

By: Greg Morris

Greg Morris — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:38:58 +0000

Jeesh, what a bunch of nerds we be. Who’s up for “People of the Gun” tshirts? Hmmm, maybe not tshirts, maybe hooded cloaks.

By: thirdpower

thirdpower — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:34:08 +0000

Oh good. I wasn’t the only one thinking that.

By: Ahab

Ahab — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:22:18 +0000

You know, I actually like “People of the Gun”, it makes us sound like a bunch of wandering mystics, doing eldritch magics with our strange devices.

By: GeorgeH

GeorgeH — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:20:00 +0000

“The NRA has built a juggernaut of a website that networks gun advocates from hither to yon.”

Coulda fooled me. The NRA website is like the newsweeklies. Everything you see in Time or Newsweek or the NRA site you already saw a week ago somewhere else.

By: Phelps

Phelps — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:54:55 +0000

I just realized that I have never actually been on the NRA website, and can’t think of a reason that I would want to.

By: tkdkerry

tkdkerry — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:03:37 +0000

It’s ironic that most of these anti morons are running on pure emotion, yet when we answer them and show a little emotion of our own, they recoil in horror. They must truly believe their emotions are logic.

And the NRA isn’t paying we arm-chair commenters a thin dime. Last I noticed, they keep begging me for money.

By: Yu-Ain Gonnano

Yu-Ain Gonnano — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:48:04 +0000

Sorry Prester.

I was going to respond over at your place but when I went over to read the rest of your post, I saw that you had already made the same comment I had.

Call me Polly and ask me if I want a cracker.

By: Greg Morris

Greg Morris — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:47:43 +0000

I’m a Gun People!

I wonder why I’m not getting paid by the gun lobby… in fact, I’m paying them. What gives?

By: lergnom

lergnom — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:26:59 +0000

I watched the _Nightline_ debate over CCW reform in Florida in the late ’80s. The anti side kept interrupting so often that Ted Koppel threatened to turn their mikes off if they didn’t play nice.

By: Kurt "45superman" Hofmann

Kurt "45superman" Hofmann — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:20:06 +0000

Hey, if someone is paying pro-rights bloggers, I’m being robbed–I’m getting nothing. Somebody owes me!

Just kidding.

By: The Countertop Chronicles » Laura Washington, Better Waive That White Flag

The Countertop Chronicles » Laura Washington, Better Waive That White Flag — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:03:03 +0000

[...] the NOT-funded-by-the-NRA gun nut bloggers are swarming all around, basking in the impending defeat of the bigots and storming and blogging (literally) from the steps [...]

By: The Countertop Chronicles » Laura Washington’s Delusions

The Countertop Chronicles » Laura Washington’s Delusions — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:00:10 +0000

[...] the war and how the bigots don’t stand a chance when the truth comes out. Say Uncle is all over this, but seeing as he blogs from the comforts of Knoxville, Tennessee I just thought the brothers in [...]

By: thirdpower

thirdpower — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:29:25 +0000

“No one is listening.”

That about sums it up.

By: Pro-Gun Progressive » Please Explain to Me…

Pro-Gun Progressive » Please Explain to Me… — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:17:04 +0000

[...] Washington doesn’t survive much scrutiny over at Uncle’s. Bigotry indeed; she really thinks that the key to their success is organizing in black churches, [...]

By: Linoge

Linoge — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:46:58 +0000

Hey, if the Evil Big Gun Lobby wants to pay me to write pro-Second-Amendment or -firearm posts, I sure as hell am not going to turn them down. Every man has his price – mine just happens to be lower than most.

At any rate, the article was nothing more than a classic case of “If I repeat this enough times, people are going to start believing it is true.” It worked for the Clinton administration, it worked for “assault weapons” (and may be gaining steam again), and I am sure they are hoping it will work for the minority/majority debate, along with the rest.

I have to admit, though, there certainly has been an upswing of desperation-style articles from the hoplophobe side of the fence… Maybe they realize just how much ground they are losing recently?

Oh, and “Culturologist” still only accepts comments that he likes. I left two about five days ago, and have not seen hide nor hair (could have something to do with me raking him over the coals for his pathetic use of misguiding statistics, but you know how that goes…).

By: Alphecca » “People of the Gun”

Alphecca » “People of the Gun” — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:46:36 +0000

[...] That’s how one anti-Bill of Rights advocate terms the likes of me and other gun bloggers. Say Uncle stomps her like a narc at a biker rally. [...]

By: Prester Scott

Prester Scott — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:38:11 +0000

To “Yu-Ain Gonnano”:

Why did you post a response to my post over here on SayUncle’s blog instead of on mine? Don’t you love me?

To Uncle:

I apologize for any confusion. LJ doesn’t do trackbacks.

By: Rustmeister

Rustmeister — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:35:25 +0000

Outta the park, Unc!

By: Yu-Ain Gonnano

Yu-Ain Gonnano — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:12:31 +0000

I wonder why gun control advocates presume that the pro-gun blogosphere is a big conspiracy bankrolled by the NRA, instead of what it really is, a true grassroots effort by smart people who are passionate about liberty.

Because if the “majority” can’t create a community without paying it’s members to lobby for their issues, the “minority” obviously can’t do it without paying theirs?

I mean, doesn’t it help if your “Reality-Based Community” is actually based in, you know, Reality?

By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » New Media Failures

Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » New Media Failures — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:52:24 +0000

[...] does a great fisking of an editorial by Laura Washington. I have some comment myself on this part: The rabid response [...]

By: Nomen Nescio

Nomen Nescio — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:48:47 +0000

FYI, that Culturologist guy accepts comments now, though he disavows responding to �nutcase� arguments.

by his standards, that’d be any argument made by somebody other than himself. he’s one of the few people who make me truly happy to know they have no guns.

By: Call me Ahab » Blog Archive » You’re doing it wrong

Call me Ahab » Blog Archive » You’re doing it wrong — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:29:45 +0000

[...] Uncle directs me to (another) editorial written by Laura Washington about gun control. You might recall Ms. Washington from previous entries, where she was complaining that the “gun-lobby” was kicking tail six ways from Sunday. Her new editorial really isn’t much different from the old one, except this time she is entreating the “progressives” to get out there and take over the internet or something. The national news polls suggest that the majority of Americans support more gun control. [...]

By: Say Uncle writes to the Anti’s at Traction Control

Say Uncle writes to the Anti’s at Traction Control — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:19:22 +0000

[...] RTWT [...]

By: Jacob

Jacob — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:18:22 +0000

I remember back in ‘95 during the first online debates between Tayna Metaska representing NRA and Sarah Brady. The first was on Compuserve the second was on AOL. Sarah lasted about 10 minutes on Compuserve. She was pelted by pro-gunners and signed off without so much as a goodbye. Pretty much the same thing happened on AOL.

By: k-romulus

k-romulus — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:17:08 +0000

FYI, that Culturologist guy accepts comments now, though he disavows responding to “nutcase” arguments.

By: USCitizen

USCitizen — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:03:26 +0000

Well said my friend, well said.