Comments on: Challenge – blog style

By: GreatBlueWhale

GreatBlueWhale — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:05:26 +0000

1. Most GFW are leftist liberals.
2. Most leftist liberals are obviously superior intellects. Just ask them.
3. Superior intellects don’t deign to debate, they proclaim.
4. When their proclamations are rejected by inferior intellects, they turn purple, fall to the floor, drum their heels against the floor, and call you names because their emotional age is something less than three years old.
Logical progression.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:55:04 +0000

Especially as showing us to be reasonable, thoughtful and willing to listen. It isn’t so much the words as the actions. It is tough to write us off as drooling, hicktard rednecks when we’re throwing court cases, statistics and evidence that gun nuts are generally anything but irresponsible.

If we get one fence sitter to go, “Hmm, he has a point and he’s responsible with his guns…”, we win. One heart and mind at a time.

We put the “reason” in Reasoned Discourse(TM). It should be our slogan.

Matt

By: Sigivald

Sigivald — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:34:40 +0000

Actually, that first commenter is right; there's no possibility of debate between people like that and pro-gun people. Debate implies that both sides have something to say that they can argue and defend against the points of the other side in at least a vaguely effectual manner (because otherwise it's not much of a debate, is it?). In my experience, they simply haven't got anything to debate, other than an emotional or ideological insistence that guns are bad, or gun owners are bad, or similar axioms. (Kevin's right, of course, in that even non-debates can have a useful purpose. Heck, I think a situation where the anti-gun side has nothing substantive "debating" thoughtful individual armament advocates is possibly the most positive one for swaying fence-sitters.)

By: Alcibiades McZombie

Alcibiades McZombie — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:27:40 +0000

Jadegold is a troll. Trolls seek to start flamewars. If a flamewar does not start, the troll will mostly leave for greener pastures.

I think that’s why he briefly appeared on Snowflakes in Hell, commented ferociously, then went away when nothing happened.

By: thirdpower

thirdpower — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:44:56 +0000

Kevin:

Jade claimed that Uncle banned him. Posting here would have made him look like an even bigger idiot. But then he changed his tune and claimed Uncle unbanned him.
He’s just got an unhealthy fixation on you.

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:35:37 +0000

JadeGold has already made an appearance. How do you manage to keep him off this site without banning him? I’m envious! I’m blocking a whole swath of IP addresses to keep him off TSM.

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:36:35 +0000

Well, Uncle, where are you supposed to point the Soccer Moms when you’re trying to convince them? I said in my piece

While I doubt either of us will change our positions much, these discussions aren’t really aimed at that. They’re aimed at the audience of fence-sitters, the people who don’t have much knowledge of the topic, but who want to know more so that they can make up their own minds.