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		<title>By: bob r</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181205</link>
		<dc:creator>bob r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gentlemen, you can&#039;t fight in here! This is the War Room!&quot;&quot;

I think quite a few of us will get the reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gentlemen, you can&#8217;t fight in here! This is the War Room!&#8221;"</p>
<p>I think quite a few of us will get the reference.</p>
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		<title>By: ParatrooperJJ</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181155</link>
		<dc:creator>ParatrooperJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We have been experimenting with fuel/air explosives since the 50s at least and have never been able to develop anything reliable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know who this &quot;we&quot; is but the US has had FAE weapons in the inventory for years and they work fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We have been experimenting with fuel/air explosives since the 50s at least and have never been able to develop anything reliable.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who this &#8220;we&#8221; is but the US has had FAE weapons in the inventory for years and they work fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Blounttruth</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181143</link>
		<dc:creator>Blounttruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a related story the US is now working on a new F/A bomb that is enviromentally friendly. The new FUBAR bomb is said to be able to oblitherate everything in a 10 square mile area and leave a long lasting fresh scent for years to come. heh

BT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a related story the US is now working on a new F/A bomb that is enviromentally friendly. The new FUBAR bomb is said to be able to oblitherate everything in a 10 square mile area and leave a long lasting fresh scent for years to come. heh</p>
<p>BT</p>
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		<title>By: drstrangegun</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181139</link>
		<dc:creator>drstrangegun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrmm. 

What if this thing isn&#039;t F/A... if it&#039;s vapor-phase monoreactant, it wouldn&#039;t require any air at all. Perhaps they&#039;ve found some chemical that&#039;s stable enough to survive an initial shock, and the secondary &quot;fuse&quot; is a high enough temperature or perhaps a higher velocity shock to set off the cloud? Perhaps it&#039;s a nitrated heavy hydrocarbon... IIRC as the molecular weight rises the stability of nitrated organic chemicals rises as well, it&#039;s much harder to set off trinitrotoluene than nitroglycerin or nitrocellulose. Could we have a cloud of X-nitro-Y-ane with a shock buffer for primary distribution?

The world may never know :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrmm. </p>
<p>What if this thing isn&#8217;t F/A&#8230; if it&#8217;s vapor-phase monoreactant, it wouldn&#8217;t require any air at all. Perhaps they&#8217;ve found some chemical that&#8217;s stable enough to survive an initial shock, and the secondary &#8220;fuse&#8221; is a high enough temperature or perhaps a higher velocity shock to set off the cloud? Perhaps it&#8217;s a nitrated heavy hydrocarbon&#8230; IIRC as the molecular weight rises the stability of nitrated organic chemicals rises as well, it&#8217;s much harder to set off trinitrotoluene than nitroglycerin or nitrocellulose. Could we have a cloud of X-nitro-Y-ane with a shock buffer for primary distribution?</p>
<p>The world may never know :-p</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Strangeglove reference but that probably says more about my age than my knowlege of movies.

I keep thinking I want to experiment with F/A explosives but I can see it&#039;s a tricky thing. The F/A ratio has to be within a certain range for it to work and how do you get that consistent of a mixture throughout the entire volume?

And making reasonable assumptions about the amount of &quot;power&quot; get from, say, a gallon of fuel is pretty scary. A large percentage of the weight of most explosives is oxygen. If you use oxygen from the air instead putting it in the explosives you get a &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; larger explosion for the same weight of explosive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Strangeglove reference but that probably says more about my age than my knowlege of movies.</p>
<p>I keep thinking I want to experiment with F/A explosives but I can see it&#8217;s a tricky thing. The F/A ratio has to be within a certain range for it to work and how do you get that consistent of a mixture throughout the entire volume?</p>
<p>And making reasonable assumptions about the amount of &#8220;power&#8221; get from, say, a gallon of fuel is pretty scary. A large percentage of the weight of most explosives is oxygen. If you use oxygen from the air instead putting it in the explosives you get a <i>much</i> larger explosion for the same weight of explosive.</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb, never underestimate the dangers of fluoridation. Our beloved &lt;a href=&quot;http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=W004&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cas Walker&lt;/a&gt; warned us long before Dr. Strangelove. In the 1950&#039;s our former Knoxville Mayor thought fluoridation was a &quot;Commie Plot.&quot;

Was Cas the model for General Jack D. Ripper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb, never underestimate the dangers of fluoridation. Our beloved <a href="http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=W004" rel="nofollow">Cas Walker</a> warned us long before Dr. Strangelove. In the 1950&#8242;s our former Knoxville Mayor thought fluoridation was a &#8220;Commie Plot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was Cas the model for General Jack D. Ripper?</p>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point in history, I think Dr Strangelove qualifies as an obscure movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point in history, I think Dr Strangelove qualifies as an obscure movie.</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You knew Dr. Strangegun would get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You knew Dr. Strangegun would get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Strangegun</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181096</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Strangegun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*ahem*.


YEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*ahem*.</p>
<p>YEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181081</link>
		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;OK, how many people are actually going to get the Dr. Strangelove reference?&lt;/i&gt;

Up here, you would be surprised. Quite the catch phrase on the liberal blogs in Knoxweird. 

&lt;i&gt;Next you will pulling post titles out of the Mouse that Roared.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmmm....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>OK, how many people are actually going to get the Dr. Strangelove reference?</i></p>
<p>Up here, you would be surprised. Quite the catch phrase on the liberal blogs in Knoxweird. </p>
<p><i>Next you will pulling post titles out of the Mouse that Roared.</i></p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181080</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great set of characters

Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper
Col. &#039;Bat&#039; Guano
Maj. T.J. &#039;King&#039; Kong

(I love IMDB!)
General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children&#039;s ice cream.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.

General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don&#039;t, Jack.

General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It&#039;s incredibly obvious, isn&#039;t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That&#039;s the way your hard-core Commie works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great set of characters</p>
<p>Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper<br />
Col. &#8216;Bat&#8217; Guano<br />
Maj. T.J. &#8216;King&#8217; Kong</p>
<p>(I love IMDB!)<br />
General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk&#8230; ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children&#8217;s ice cream.</p>
<p>Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.</p>
<p>General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?</p>
<p>Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I&#8230; no, no. I don&#8217;t, Jack.</p>
<p>General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It&#8217;s incredibly obvious, isn&#8217;t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That&#8217;s the way your hard-core Commie works.</p>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181079</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, how many people are actually going to get the Dr. Strangelove reference?

Next you will pulling post titles out of the Mouse that Roared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, how many people are actually going to get the Dr. Strangelove reference?</p>
<p>Next you will pulling post titles out of the Mouse that Roared.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a big bomb if they can actually make it work reliably. We have been experimenting with fuel/air explosives since the 50s at least and have never been able to develop anything reliable. A lot of the time it just turns into a couple of thousand gallons of spilled gas burning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a big bomb if they can actually make it work reliably. We have been experimenting with fuel/air explosives since the 50s at least and have never been able to develop anything reliable. A lot of the time it just turns into a couple of thousand gallons of spilled gas burning.</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the Chinese, let&#039;s hope they are not competitive. Can you imagine the Mother-in-law of All Bombs?

Let&#039;s not go there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the Chinese, let&#8217;s hope they are not competitive. Can you imagine the Mother-in-law of All Bombs?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not go there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cactus Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2000 yard blast area? Mercy sakes, that&#039;s one nautical mile! (a statute mile is 1,760 yards)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2000 yard blast area? Mercy sakes, that&#8217;s one nautical mile! (a statute mile is 1,760 yards)</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/the_mineshaft_gap/comment-page-1/#comment-181058</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biggest ever conventional bomb? It&#039;s like warfare is going retro.

Next: China reveals deadliest-ever bayonet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biggest ever conventional bomb? It&#8217;s like warfare is going retro.</p>
<p>Next: China reveals deadliest-ever bayonet!</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing is four times the power of the MOAB. Supposedly the power of a very small nuke.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This cannot be good for these people.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing is four times the power of the MOAB. Supposedly the power of a very small nuke.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya" rel="nofollow">This cannot be good for these people.</a></p>
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