Comments on: Police Vid Update http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:12:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Boondoggie http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181232 Boondoggie Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:22:39 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181232 Baiting the cops? Is that anything like what cops do everyday to citizens? Don't you feel safer knowing cops like that are The Only Ones able to carry weapons in many jurisdictions? Baiting the cops? Is that anything like what cops do everyday to citizens?

Don’t you feel safer knowing cops like that are The Only Ones able to carry weapons in many jurisdictions?

]]> By: blackfork http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181212 blackfork Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:01:01 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181212 If this kid is out baiting police, it sure is looking easy to do. Seems like it would be easy to be a professional, all the time. But as LEOs always say: walk a mile in my shoes. Of course, then this kid would be a mile away....and he would have their shoes as well as their butts.... If this kid is out baiting police, it sure is looking easy to do. Seems like it would be easy to be a professional, all the time. But as LEOs always say: walk a mile in my shoes.

Of course, then this kid would be a mile away….and he would have their shoes as well as their butts….

]]> By: Unix-Jedi http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181170 Unix-Jedi Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:39:43 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181170 Even more of an update. Kuehnlein's Lawyer is blaming Darrow. http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/F213F980846703A986257355000D2A5C?OpenDocument <em>"This is clearly a case where this young man is baiting police officers," attorney Travis L. Noble said. "This isn't someone who just happened upon this." Brett Darrow, 20, posted a video on the Internet of Sgt. James Kuehnlein threatening him as he sat in his car in a commuter parking lot last week. The clip has sparked national attention and local controversy. ... Late last year, Darrow approached a police checkpoint with his in-car camera rolling. When the officer asked where he was going, he replied, "I don't wish to discuss my personal life with you, officer." The officer ordered him out of the car, and the two argued. Some people, including police officers, say Darrow makes a habit of baiting cops. St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig said Kuehnlein's behavior was out of line but questioned why Darrow's car is decked out with scanners and a radar detector in addition to the camera. Darrow said, "They call me 'video boy'" on a local police Internet forum. But he denies he's trying to entrap officers. "They think I'm out to get them, but they're stopping me," Darrow said.</em> ("Some people" is another good example of the writer putting their own opinion in.) Even more of an update.

Kuehnlein’s Lawyer is blaming Darrow.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/F213F980846703A986257355000D2A5C?OpenDocument

“This is clearly a case where this young man is baiting police officers,” attorney Travis L. Noble said. “This isn’t someone who just happened upon this.”

Brett Darrow, 20, posted a video on the Internet of Sgt. James Kuehnlein threatening him as he sat in his car in a commuter parking lot last week. The clip has sparked national attention and local controversy.
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Late last year, Darrow approached a police checkpoint with his in-car camera rolling. When the officer asked where he was going, he replied, “I don’t wish to discuss my personal life with you, officer.”

The officer ordered him out of the car, and the two argued.

Some people, including police officers, say Darrow makes a habit of baiting cops. St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig said Kuehnlein’s behavior was out of line but questioned why Darrow’s car is decked out with scanners and a radar detector in addition to the camera.

Darrow said, “They call me ‘video boy’” on a local police Internet forum. But he denies he’s trying to entrap officers.

“They think I’m out to get them, but they’re stopping me,” Darrow said.

(”Some people” is another good example of the writer putting their own opinion in.)

]]> By: ParatrooperJJ http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181151 ParatrooperJJ Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:56:54 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181151 Most police patrol car video systems require a supervisor to unlock the recorder to remove the tape. I would want to find out which supervisor did this. Most police patrol car video systems require a supervisor to unlock the recorder to remove the tape. I would want to find out which supervisor did this.

]]> By: Two--Four http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181140 Two--Four Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:21:57 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181140 [...] who recorded the scene. Naturally, the video from the cop's car is missing. Observes a commentor here, "Kind of like the front door of the Branch Davidian compound at Waco." Reader Doug sent me that [...] [...] who recorded the scene. Naturally, the video from the cop’s car is missing. Observes a commentor here, “Kind of like the front door of the Branch Davidian compound at Waco.” Reader Doug sent me that [...]

]]> By: Nylarthotep http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181137 Nylarthotep Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:58:07 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181137 I'd also say that the missing video is at minimum a cause for calling for an official investigation as that video is a legal document. They don't have the right to purge it. Once they do that could easily be considered tampering with evidence since. I'm thinking that cop needs some time in jail. At minimum for tampering with the tape and for criminal threatening. This smells incredibly bad. And I'll bet he'll get off with nothing but a talking too and a letter in his jacket. And the Chief should be given the boot as well. He completely ignores the criminality of the actions of his officer and the direct impact on the legitimacy of his police force by one imbecile that he gave a badge too. Another reason why the public doesn't trust the police. Would you want someone like that protecting you? I’d also say that the missing video is at minimum a cause for calling for an official investigation as that video is a legal document. They don’t have the right to purge it. Once they do that could easily be considered tampering with evidence since.

I’m thinking that cop needs some time in jail. At minimum for tampering with the tape and for criminal threatening. This smells incredibly bad. And I’ll bet he’ll get off with nothing but a talking too and a letter in his jacket.

And the Chief should be given the boot as well. He completely ignores the criminality of the actions of his officer and the direct impact on the legitimacy of his police force by one imbecile that he gave a badge too.

Another reason why the public doesn’t trust the police. Would you want someone like that protecting you?

]]> By: Gregory Morris http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181112 Gregory Morris Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:40:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181112 Oh, and <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6827635428840930544" rel="nofollow">here is the media report on it.</a> Mr. Urhig comes thisssssss close to condoning the officer in question. He only seems to have a problem with the swearing really, not so much with the THREAT TO MAKE UP CHARGES. Wow. Oh, and here is the media report on it.

Mr. Urhig comes thisssssss close to condoning the officer in question. He only seems to have a problem with the swearing really, not so much with the THREAT TO MAKE UP CHARGES. Wow.

]]> By: Gregory Morris http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181111 Gregory Morris Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:33:07 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181111 Yeah, my link was just about the cop being in trouble. Regardless, this is big news in that little town. There have been a few articles about this thing, and I wouldn't be half suprised to see a few more. If yall haven't seen it, there is another video posted by this guy when he was harrassed at a dwi checkpoint. You can find the link through the other links... I'm to lazy to go get it for ya. Yeah, my link was just about the cop being in trouble. Regardless, this is big news in that little town. There have been a few articles about this thing, and I wouldn’t be half suprised to see a few more. If yall haven’t seen it, there is another video posted by this guy when he was harrassed at a dwi checkpoint. You can find the link through the other links… I’m to lazy to go get it for ya.

]]> By: blackfork http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181103 blackfork Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:17:38 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181103 The cheap video revolution is on! Note: The FBI Tactical Team at Mt Carmel had seven video towers that fed images to the central command 24/7. (Same towers were used to project sound at the Davidians.) Mysteriously, on the morning of the final assault, all seven video feeds went dead. The Fleer video shot from far overhead, is the only remaining official footage of the raid. Funny how those things break down at crucial moments. The cheap video revolution is on!

Note: The FBI Tactical Team at Mt Carmel had seven video towers that fed images to the central command 24/7. (Same towers were used to project sound at the Davidians.) Mysteriously, on the morning of the final assault, all seven video feeds went dead. The Fleer video shot from far overhead, is the only remaining official footage of the raid.

Funny how those things break down at crucial moments.

]]> By: Magus http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181089 Magus Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:49:01 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181089 Not that's it's important or anything, but Greg's update link doesn't mention the video from the cop's car as being missing [story is before the kid had his "interview" with the Chief of Police], that's why I did an "update to the update" link. Not that’s it’s important or anything, but Greg’s update link doesn’t mention the video from the cop’s car as being missing [story is before the kid had his "interview" with the Chief of Police], that’s why I did an “update to the update” link.

]]> By: blackfork http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181071 blackfork Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:26:44 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181071 Fired and commission pulled. He's trying to incite a riot, under color of authority. I'd want his personal weapons as part of the settlement as well. The POLICE are destroying their credibility, as fast as they can. Amazing to watch, and the only way to RESTORE respect and crediblility for LEOs is to hang officers like this out to dry, after field dressing, skinning, and de-boning. Fired and commission pulled. He’s trying to incite a riot, under color of authority. I’d want his personal weapons as part of the settlement as well.

The POLICE are destroying their credibility, as fast as they can. Amazing to watch, and the only way to RESTORE respect and crediblility for LEOs is to hang officers like this out to dry, after field dressing, skinning, and de-boning.

]]> By: chris http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181067 chris Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:41:53 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181067 <strong>"During the meeting Darrow asked to see the videotape from Kuehnlein’s police car. But according to Uhrig, that footage, inexplicably, is nowhere to be found."</strong> Kind of like the front door of the Branch Davidian compound at Waco. “During the meeting Darrow asked to see the videotape from Kuehnlein’s police car. But according to Uhrig, that footage, inexplicably, is nowhere to be found.”

Kind of like the front door of the Branch Davidian compound at Waco.

]]> By: Cactus Jack http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181061 Cactus Jack Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:49:52 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181061 "During the meeting Darrow asked to see the videotape from Kuehnlein’s police car. But according to Uhrig, that footage, inexplicably, is nowhere to be found. Imagine that." It's probably been erased. You cant find something that dos'nt exist anymore. As to firing that asshole Kuehnlein, YES! That's the worse case of unprofessional conduct I've ever heard of. Had I acted like that on duty when I was in the Fire Service I'd have been shitcanned immediately, if not sooner, for unprofessional conduct. “During the meeting Darrow asked to see the videotape from Kuehnlein’s police car. But according to Uhrig, that footage, inexplicably, is nowhere to be found.

Imagine that.”

It’s probably been erased. You cant find something that dos’nt exist anymore.

As to firing that asshole Kuehnlein, YES! That’s the worse case of unprofessional conduct I’ve ever heard of. Had I acted like that on duty when I was in the Fire Service I’d have been shitcanned immediately, if not sooner, for unprofessional conduct.

]]> By: Greg Morris http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181055 Greg Morris Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:56:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181055 <blockquote>"Most officers aren't used to being questioned like that," Uhrig said.</blockquote> Heh. Duh. That's no excuse for being an ass. I'm still pissed about that video. I don't even know what I'd do in a situation like that, but I can tell you it certainly wouldn't end well.

“Most officers aren’t used to being questioned like that,” Uhrig said.

Heh. Duh. That’s no excuse for being an ass. I’m still pissed about that video. I don’t even know what I’d do in a situation like that, but I can tell you it certainly wouldn’t end well.

]]> By: Greg Morris http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/comment-page-1/#comment-181054 Greg Morris Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:52:55 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/09/12/police_vid_update/#comment-181054 *ahem* *ahem*

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