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	<title>Comments on: Ouch</title>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180908</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, the one I fired was 45-70. I think the second shot (410) hurt more because I&#039;d already done damage firing the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, the one I fired was 45-70. I think the second shot (410) hurt more because I&#8217;d already done damage firing the first.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180907</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  American Derringer now makes their guns in many chamberings.  .45-70 is available, but it&#039;s separate from .45 Colt/.410.  I still wouldn&#039;t want to fire one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  American Derringer now makes their guns in many chamberings.  .45-70 is available, but it&#8217;s separate from .45 Colt/.410.  I still wouldn&#8217;t want to fire one!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180905</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That gun is made by American Derringer.  It is chambered for .45 Colt/.410 only, according to their web site.  I saw one reference in a gun forum saying that the top barrel is .45-70 and the bottom barrel is .45Colt/.410, so that may have been made in the past, but if so they must have decided that it wasn&#039;t a good idea.    A .45-70 derringer with a tiny grip and weighing only a pound would be pretty much uncontrollable, I would think, **far** worse than a &quot;measly&quot; .410.  You&#039;re talking a powerful rifle cartridge capable of taking down bear and elk.  I&#039;ve heard people who own .45-70 T/C Contenders, say how much they hurt, how much skin they lose, etc., and they&#039;re a LOT heavier guns.     Even .45 Colt would be a handful in a derringer, although as Les says, not as bad as a .410.

Magnum Research makes a revolver called the &quot;BFR&quot; with many powerful chamberings, including .45 Colt/.410 and .45-70, but they specifically say on their web site that the two are incompatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That gun is made by American Derringer.  It is chambered for .45 Colt/.410 only, according to their web site.  I saw one reference in a gun forum saying that the top barrel is .45-70 and the bottom barrel is .45Colt/.410, so that may have been made in the past, but if so they must have decided that it wasn&#8217;t a good idea.    A .45-70 derringer with a tiny grip and weighing only a pound would be pretty much uncontrollable, I would think, **far** worse than a &#8220;measly&#8221; .410.  You&#8217;re talking a powerful rifle cartridge capable of taking down bear and elk.  I&#8217;ve heard people who own .45-70 T/C Contenders, say how much they hurt, how much skin they lose, etc., and they&#8217;re a LOT heavier guns.     Even .45 Colt would be a handful in a derringer, although as Les says, not as bad as a .410.</p>
<p>Magnum Research makes a revolver called the &#8220;BFR&#8221; with many powerful chamberings, including .45 Colt/.410 and .45-70, but they specifically say on their web site that the two are incompatible.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180856</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I fired the 410 second. So, maybe my hand was already hurt from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I fired the 410 second. So, maybe my hand was already hurt from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180855</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The .45 LC is about 500 foot pounds, the .410 is about 700 or 800, and the .45-70 is 1500-2000 or more. If the .410 hurt and the other one wasn&#039;t so bad, I&#039;m pretty sure the other one was a .45 LC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The .45 LC is about 500 foot pounds, the .410 is about 700 or 800, and the .45-70 is 1500-2000 or more. If the .410 hurt and the other one wasn&#8217;t so bad, I&#8217;m pretty sure the other one was a .45 LC.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180848</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>confirmed with the owner. it would fire all three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>confirmed with the owner. it would fire all three.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180840</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty certain it was a 45-70.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty certain it was a 45-70.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/09/10/ouch-4/comment-page-1/#comment-180839</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unc, the gun you shot was a .410/.45 Long Colt. The .45 Long Colt is a straight-walled pistol round. The .45-70 is a tapered-case rifle round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unc, the gun you shot was a .410/.45 Long Colt. The .45 Long Colt is a straight-walled pistol round. The .45-70 is a tapered-case rifle round.</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t shoot one unless I was about to do lunch with a grizzly bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t shoot one unless I was about to do lunch with a grizzly bear.</p>
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