Comments on: Reasoned discourse

By: SayUncle » More Reasoned Discoursetm

SayUncle » More Reasoned Discoursetm — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:12:40 +0000

[...] has been deleting pro-gun comments faster than John Ford is stocking up on soap on a rope (see here and here. She claims she’s only deleting comments that lack civility. And that is bullshit. [...]

By: SayUncle » The Reasoned Discoursetm loophole

SayUncle » The Reasoned Discoursetm loophole — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:30 +0000

[...] With the outbreak of Reasoned Discoursetm over at Paul Helmke�s Brady Blog to Prevent Gun Ownership you might think that there�s no way to [...]

By: Justthisguy

Justthisguy — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:33:40 +0000

Don’t discount the possible presence of the GNAA there, stirring up trouble.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:56:05 +0000

The mistake you guys are making is thinking that the antis were ever interested in a discussion over their ideas and policies either on their blogs, in the media or the legislature. They’re not. That’s why I don’t bother. Sure, their blogs are entertaining to read, but gun control is like a religion to them and their “god” wants them to take your guns.

By: Cactus Jack

Cactus Jack — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:42:55 +0000

“guav, mine and robb�s were deleted. not just caught in moderation.”
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If Robyn Ringler was truly interested in “reasoned discourse” she would’nt moderate the site at all. What it comes down to is censorship, plain and simple.

By: SayUncle

SayUncle — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:19:56 +0000

guav, mine and robb’s were deleted. not just caught in moderation.

By: Guav

Guav — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:46:49 +0000

I am a regular over at Ringler’s blog, and it would be unfair to say that she doesn’t allow dissent�the majority of the comments there are from “us,” dissenting from and contradicting her posts.

However, she does seem to have an extremely odd and inconsistent moderation policy (or lack of a policy). Two extremely mild comments of mine on two recent entries were not allowed through moderation, although they contained absolutely nothing insulting or offensive�they were just short replies to other comments there.

I am extremely puzzled because she regularly allows my far more in depth comments, and then denies these two … I cannot make rhyme or reason of how she decides what to allow and what not to allow.

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:32:52 +0000

yes, we are better. Not just better at logic, but morally better, by any measure. When they lose a point due to our better grasp of the truth, it also almost always exposes the immorality of their argument. So not only do we win the debate on points we actually show any and all readers that we are on the side of the angels, while they are on the other.

Once they lose the pretense of moral superiority they lose all the pillars upholding their flawed policies and agendae.

By: thirdpower

thirdpower — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:32 +0000

I questioned NancyRob’s points on the “where” site but they never showed up so I posted them again at mine:

http://daysofourtrailers.blogspot.com/2007/08/psh-continues.html

Never a response had.

Now Alex has a bunch of stuff up on his “Ilove” site w/ the same old ad hominems and stereotypes. He reminds me of “Dr. Dino” who will only debate people under specific circumstances.

By: Standard Mischief

Standard Mischief — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:21:04 +0000

Check out Robyn Ringler’s latest post. She’s reposting select comments a la Paul Helmke’s �reasoned discourse� series.

I know what happens next.

While wishing for someone’s death is childish, reposting the comment as a prelude or pretext to cut off comments makes you look like a drama queen. If you really believe the crap you’re trying to sell in you blog, try to appear like you actually have a backbone, the “persecuted weenie” look doesn’t flatter anyone.

By: Rustmeister

Rustmeister — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:21:56 +0000

That's why I rag on them from TGB. They have to live up to what they post without being able to make my comments go "poof".

By: Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Cat Got Your Tongue?

Snowflakes in Hell » Blog Archive » Cat Got Your Tongue? — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:20:25 +0000

[...] Or perhaps the anti-gunners are realizing that they can’t compete in the blogosphere. [...]

By: Kevin Baker

Kevin Baker — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:03:19 +0000

I invited Ringler to open debate. Twice. Not only did she decline, she didn’t bother to respond.

Right then I knew she wasn’t interested in “gun control,” she was just another gun banner who wouldn’t admit it publicly.

Helmke’s blog was fun while it lasted, wasn’t it?

My invitation to my readers is still open. No new takers.

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:42:13 +0000

WhereDidTheGunComeFrom.com? At least they allow comments, however I�ve yet to see much in the way of anything worth commenting on.

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(My comment — text below — was NOT allowed.)

You ask: Why else would gun sellers advertise a Tec-9 as �fingerprint resistant�

As is so often true, the path to enlightenment begins with asking the right questions.

1) Why has no city, state, or country (even those with strict gun control laws) banned �fingerprint resistant� guns?

2) An ad for a �fingerprint resistant� gun might be a powerful propaganda tool for gun control advocates. In view of this, why has the actual ad advertising a Tec-9 as �fingerprint resistant� never been shown or published by gun control advocates?