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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/08/14/paul_reasoned_discourse_helmkes_latest/comment-page-1/#comment-178661</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, if we controlled criminals, we wouldn&#039;t need to control guns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, if we controlled criminals, we wouldn&#8217;t need to control guns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/08/14/paul_reasoned_discourse_helmkes_latest/comment-page-1/#comment-178614</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we talk about power tools, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around power tools. A power tool may be just another tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.

When we talk about matches, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around matches. A match or a Zippo lighter may be just a tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.

When we talk about automobiles, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around automobiles. An automobile may be just a tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.

Ban everything.  Only then can we be guaranteed of never, ever dying or getting hurt or sick or even feeling uncomfortable in any way, ever, ever.

How about this one, which you might have seen come out of the KKK 40 years ago:
When we talk about minorities, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around minorities. A minority may be just a person, but he&#039;s a person whose misbehavior can have profound and permanent consequences.

Or, from 1930s Germany:
When we talk about Jews...

Same tactics, different target group.  Socialists (control freaks, sociopaths, et al) never go away; they just put on a new disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we talk about power tools, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around power tools. A power tool may be just another tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.</p>
<p>When we talk about matches, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around matches. A match or a Zippo lighter may be just a tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.</p>
<p>When we talk about automobiles, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around automobiles. An automobile may be just a tool, but it’s a tool whose misuse can have profound and permanent consequences.</p>
<p>Ban everything.  Only then can we be guaranteed of never, ever dying or getting hurt or sick or even feeling uncomfortable in any way, ever, ever.</p>
<p>How about this one, which you might have seen come out of the KKK 40 years ago:<br />
When we talk about minorities, what we’re really talking about are ways to encourage people to behave differently around minorities. A minority may be just a person, but he&#8217;s a person whose misbehavior can have profound and permanent consequences.</p>
<p>Or, from 1930s Germany:<br />
When we talk about Jews&#8230;</p>
<p>Same tactics, different target group.  Socialists (control freaks, sociopaths, et al) never go away; they just put on a new disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cactus Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robert Says: 

August 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pm 
He’s lying. They don’t give a flip about any of those laws except as incremental steps toward confiscation.
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Lies? From Paul Hemke, the lie pusher? Does he ever tell the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robert Says: </p>
<p>August 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pm<br />
He’s lying. They don’t give a flip about any of those laws except as incremental steps toward confiscation.<br />
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Lies? From Paul Hemke, the lie pusher? Does he ever tell the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s lying.  They don&#039;t give a flip about any of those laws except as incremental steps toward confiscation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s lying.  They don&#8217;t give a flip about any of those laws except as incremental steps toward confiscation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian-PGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian-PGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking he was due for something...I went to the Why We&#039;ll Win site Paul mentions.

http://www.whywellwin.com/

Interesting, but I object to the portrayal of the gun issue as right vs. left.  It&#039;s freedom vs. authortarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking he was due for something&#8230;I went to the Why We&#8217;ll Win site Paul mentions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whywellwin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whywellwin.com/</a></p>
<p>Interesting, but I object to the portrayal of the gun issue as right vs. left.  It&#8217;s freedom vs. authortarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: thirdpower</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirdpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So advocating for all sorts of bans isn&#039;t debating about guns?  Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So advocating for all sorts of bans isn&#8217;t debating about guns?  Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reasoned Discourse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reasoned Discourse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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