Again, no it isn’t. It’s been that way for decades. I can’t help it if you haven’t been looking.

Hell, 50 years ago blacks were still living under segregation. And we’re screaming today that the sky is falling because you have to take your shoes off at the airport?

Don’t straw man the argument into the patriot act – you are right that the framework of tyranny is added to little by little over the years, but now is the first time it’s in our faces, out in the open for everyone to see. And what do Americans do? They take it like good little subjects because they have too much to lose. I was at the airport recently and now they have messages playing over and over saying that jokes about security will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and security is everyone’s responsibility, etc. So now we have the friggin thought police in the airports.

The minority rights are like the canaries of liberty – once they are silenced, we’re fucked.

To hear many people talk, the Patriot Act is the new Doomsday Law That Will Bring Down Democracy. Sorry, it’s not. It’s a piss in the ocean on the infringement scale.

That’s not to say I that I think pissing in the ocean is a good thing the fish do enough of that already thankyou. It’s just not the Chicken Little Law people make it out to be.

Oh and BTW, I don’t think the WoD, RICO are a coordinated attack to bring about tyrany. I think it’s an honest attempt by well-meaning people who don’t have a clue what the actual outcomes of their policies are. I rarely ascribe malice to that which can easily be explained by stupidity.

Just because they are moving forward in multiple attacks on our rights, are you saying it doesn’t count, nor it is a coordinated effort?

Are you really saying that? Really? Really?

Ok, three really’s? You will never get a better chance to understand that the War on Drugs,RICO, and the War on Terror, are serving two goals, one of which is to rescind personal freedom and autonomy in this country.

It does not allow the police to troll through everyone’s financial records willy-nilly.

Who do you think the bank is going to protect? You or themselves? Especially knowing the judge won’t protect the constitution if they are charged with not ratting you out. Even if you did nothing illegal, their failure to report you can cost them dearly.

No warrant needed.

Care to back up the assertion that bank records aren’t private? Last I saw you still needed a warrant.

Or are you making the assertion that “Terrorist” means “anyone we want to”?

As for Travel, I’ll agree that most of what TSA does is useless and federalizing it only made things worse. But I can’t say that I would go so far as to say that security screens are an infringement on the right to travel. Especially as many people do it routinely.

I am right there with you on McC-F. I’ll use my private property to advocate any political position/outcome I want, thankyouverymuch.

/sarcasm

Right to privacy: Your bank records and your medical records aren’t private anymore.
Right to travel: Been to an airport lately? And Greyhound has almost as much restrictions. The only way you can get around freely is by driving – once you get a license for that…
Freedom of speech: McCain-Feingold. “Free speech zones”. Hate crime laws.

I don’t have time to continue…

August 1st, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Right to privacy.
Right to travel.
Freedom of speech.
Freedom of association.
Freedom of the press.
Right to keep and bear arms.
Protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
And on
And on

Would you care to be more specific Tam? The only one you listed that I know is under attack is the right to keep and bear arms. The “and on”… tells me nothing and sounds like something a lib would post.

At least they haven’t tried quartering troops in my house…

…yet.

July 31st, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Too bad Fred is a CFR neo-con. Think 9/11 and the patriot act reduced our freedoms? Just see what happens if he’s elected with all those KBR “detention” centers lying around unused…

So what feedoms were “reduced”? The only freedom I’ve seen endangered is our 2nd ammendment rights, courtesy of the dem-cong.

Those aren’t much good for concealed carry, though.

Used for what Mr. Cohen? Are you implying something sinister here? Considering that he’s a lib I’d say he is.

was burglarized one very dark night by a klutz of a thief who burst though my back door and ran around the first floor making so much noise that I was certain he was coming for me.

And what you you do if Jamal had come for you? Sing Kumbayah?

I am nervous when I am disarmed and in large cities, not in our little hamlet, where armed citizens are commonplace, crime is modest, and I (almost) always have a gun at the ready.

This guy is quite a liability for Team Hillary.

I venture to say that he will have other topics to dwell on (e.g. praise for the UN and the proposed North American Union) as the election draws near, because the Dems in Congress didn’t even want to talk about guns the night of the Va. Tech shooting (while I was, overreactively, ordering bulk quantities of Glock mags).

There is a lot more gun violence in D.C. than at any of our gun shows down here.

As a matter of fact, gun show weekend is by far the safest that Magnolia Avenue ever gets (as camo-clad minions head out Magnolia to the Jacob Building).

Hell, intimidation? Waving in the air? I say kill ‘em.

They must be broken…

Spooky.