Speaking as someone who’s been in college both before and after military service, that’s very, very true. I wonder how much different it was on campus back when ROTC was mandatory? Or if maybe just requiring all freshmen to go through an 8-week boot-camp-like program in the summer before college would be worth it in easier-to-manage classrooms and dorms?

We know for damn sure that helplessness is not a security measure. How many times must we see this proven, before people quit calling for more of it?

If a person is considered trustworty enough by the state authorities to get issued a concealed carry permit then why cant a college recognize it and TRUST that student to act responsibly?

IMHO, if just ONE iron packing student with a set of ‘nads had been on that campus many lives could’ve been saved.

So what is it that is common to all these shootings?
One thing is common. Irrationality. None of these killing make any sense to anybody. Everybody reels in trying to understand them.
What then makes these shooters so irrational?
A little research will reveal that the common underlying factor is drugs. In every case of these mass shootings the shooter was on drugs. Either street drugs or much more commonly so called “legal” or psych drugs. Every single time. Check Google for proof.

And as everybody knows these drugs head straight for the brain and send a person out of their mind so they do not know what they are doing. In other words they are drugged insane at the time.
They certainly have no idea of what they are doing. A necessary qualification to be able to randomly murder in cold blood. No different from a suicide bomber. These idiots are psychologically brain washed and for the most part drugged into a state of insanity. They would have to be.

You think about it. Could you tie a bomb to yourself and blow up innocent people? Would you go out and randomly kill your class mates because you had a tiff with your partner? No. You would have to be nuts to do it. And that is exactly the frame of mind these killers are in. They are nuts on drugs. You ask any poor parent who has had the experience of their kid on Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, Speed, Ecstasy, Ice. The story is the same. If they don’t commit suicide they have fits of wanting to kill others.

As soon as you put drugs into the equation as at the bottom of it all it all makes sense. Drugs are your common answer and it is the only thing that is date co-incident with the rise in killings. In other words these insane random killings never happened before until the powerful drugs of today were introduced by the various vested interests and pushers.
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And with execution chambers (Holocaust), and with propane tanks (Columbine). Caligula, Stalin, Polpot, and Hitler were crazy psychopaths, too, they just happened to be in positions of power.

No law will ever stop random acts of the psychopath.

The only hope we can have is that a legally armed citizen — CCW holder, cop, security, whatever — is nearby to blow the psychopath to hell before they kill too many innocents.

I’m a college student, and there’s been a lot of “what if…” on campus since the attack. But everyone admits that no one really knows how they’d react in that situation. However, I think the next psychopath to open up on a school will be met with more resistance, just like terrorists in Flight 93 were.

and on a more bloodthirsty note, I’m glad this prick is dead and there is no appeal, no long trial, no “I snapped and went crazy” defense.

Why they say “worse mass murder with a firearm ever…” and not just “worse mass murder” is this unfortunate incident

87 people tragically killed with a few dollars of gasoline. Easily available without a background check or a 7 day waiting period, Legally able to be possessed by convicted violent felons.

I’ve made the point to several people that the worst mass murder in the history of the United States was conducted with gasoline, not guns. And in a city with strict gun controls, too.

Exactly. It’s utter nonsense.

If only ONE professor had the proper 20 oz tool, he could have possibly saved dozens of lives. POSSIBLY.

Which is more than can be said of all the impressive looking yet totally ineffective SWAT hardware prancing around afterward. They look good on TV though.

If the person is trusted in the City of Blacksburg to carry a concealed weapon, why are they instantly rendered untrustworthy 20 feet away on the VA Tech campus???

Not all college students are kids and not all, even among the kids, are prone to over-indulgence. My Son is a student at Old Dominion University (another Virginia Public University that prohibits CCW). He is 20 years old. He is also married and has a child. He also works full time as well as going to school full time. He doesn’t have TIME to “party all night”. The point is that he is a responsible person and one whom I would trust with my life…not just because he’s my Son, but because he’s a good, responsible, upstanding, trustworthy citizen. Unfortunately, he isn’t old enough to get a CHP yet…but as soon as he is, I would completely support him doing so.

The point in allowing Carry on the campuses is not to arm all students regardless of their age, level of responsibility etc. It is to allow those who have already taken their safety and responsibilities seriously enough to jump through the hoops to get a CHP to have the right to defend themselves and their fellow students while on campus just like anywhere else in the State of Virginia.

This rule change may very well have had no impact on this particular incident…we will never know. But what I DO know is that, had CHP holders been ALLOWED to carry on campus, there is a CHANCE that this attack could have been stopped much earlier. Under the current state of affairs, there is NO CHANCE that an attack will be stopped quickly.