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		<title>By: The Washington Post spins the Zumbo saga, plus a timeline. at Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-166079</link>
		<dc:creator>The Washington Post spins the Zumbo saga, plus a timeline. at Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 23, 10:32 AM- I post a comment over at SayUncle&#8217;s and follow that up with a blog entry showing that if that Brady MySpace page was fake in the past, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 23, 10:32 AM- I post a comment over at SayUncle&#8217;s and follow that up with a blog entry showing that if that Brady MySpace page was fake in the past, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-166042</link>
		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t we just chalk this up to incompetence?  Yes, it was further over the top than they usually go.  That just means that they weren&#039;t sending it through committee before putting it up, just like Zumbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t we just chalk this up to incompetence?  Yes, it was further over the top than they usually go.  That just means that they weren&#8217;t sending it through committee before putting it up, just like Zumbo.</p>
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		<title>By: (Was) Fake: About that MySpace Brady page at Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165952</link>
		<dc:creator>(Was) Fake: About that MySpace Brady page at Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was writing yesterday morning when I noticed Snowflakes in Hell and SayUncle scooped me, although I was going at this from another angle. Still, I had my two cents to offer so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was writing yesterday morning when I noticed Snowflakes in Hell and SayUncle scooped me, although I was going at this from another angle. Still, I had my two cents to offer so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165891</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think you&#039;re right about the assimilation.  I didn&#039;t give the page enough time to load.  Having a crappy connection day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think you&#8217;re right about the assimilation.  I didn&#8217;t give the page enough time to load.  Having a crappy connection day.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Brady MySpace Blog Altered</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165890</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowflakes in Hell &#187; Brady MySpace Blog Altered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The MySpace page seems to have been altered, with different content being substituted streamed right from the Bradys: Which means, that both the MySpace page is pulling content from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The MySpace page seems to have been altered, with different content being substituted streamed right from the Bradys: Which means, that both the MySpace page is pulling content from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165886</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Looks like they did, in fact, scrub their trademarked material off the site. &lt;/strong&gt;

Are we looking at the same site? Tradmarked stuff is there, Zumbo quotes have been scrubed. This MySpace page has been assimilated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Looks like they did, in fact, scrub their trademarked material off the site. </strong></p>
<p>Are we looking at the same site? Tradmarked stuff is there, Zumbo quotes have been scrubed. This MySpace page has been assimilated.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165885</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like they did, in fact, scrub their trademarked material off the site.  Which is what I&#039;d expect them to do if they were not associated with the blog.  So I would say that the Bradys were telling the truth.  It&#039;s not them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they did, in fact, scrub their trademarked material off the site.  Which is what I&#8217;d expect them to do if they were not associated with the blog.  So I would say that the Bradys were telling the truth.  It&#8217;s not them.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165881</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bleg, anyone got a snapshot or a cache of that myspace page before the brady bunch took it over?

I forgot to grab a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleg, anyone got a snapshot or a cache of that myspace page before the brady bunch took it over?</p>
<p>I forgot to grab a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165880</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of hate the idea of treating them fairly, considering they fight pretty dirty.  But I figure the damage whoever is running that MySpace blog was going to do has already been done.  Upon examining the blog in closer detail, the first clue was that, to their credit, The Bradys aren&#039;t generally that stupid from a PR point of view.

When I sent the e-mail, I was watching for a scrub attempt, wondering if maybe the Bradys had hired someone to do outreach to young people on MySpace, and they went kind of overboard, and they&#039;d make the right phone calls and get the content altered.  But that didn&#039;t happen.

One thing to look out for in the next few weeks is whether the poster alters their name, logo, or puts up a statement that they don&#039;t officially speak for the Bradys.  If I were in the Brady Campaign, I&#039;d certainly want to lean on MySpace a bit, and the blog owner, to try to get something like that added to avoid further damage to the message I was trying to sel.  I wouldn&#039;t want to shut it down, I mean, imagine the reaction if the NRA tried to shut down one of us?  Plus, you&#039;d think they&#039;d be kind of happy just to have some real grass roots, even if it&#039;s just one blade.  But watch for an attempt to get the MySpace blog distanced from Brady.   If it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; not them, I think they&#039;d want to.

If nothing changes, it&#039;s possible they don&#039;t really have a problem with the message being put out there, and I&#039;ll leave it to folks to decide whether or not they are, in fact, somehow associated with the effort.  But it&#039;s also quite possible that, unlike our side, who has to deal with real grass roots, with lots of potential for people saying stupid things, the Bradys, who enjoy much more control over their message than we do, just really don&#039;t know quite how to deal with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of hate the idea of treating them fairly, considering they fight pretty dirty.  But I figure the damage whoever is running that MySpace blog was going to do has already been done.  Upon examining the blog in closer detail, the first clue was that, to their credit, The Bradys aren&#8217;t generally that stupid from a PR point of view.</p>
<p>When I sent the e-mail, I was watching for a scrub attempt, wondering if maybe the Bradys had hired someone to do outreach to young people on MySpace, and they went kind of overboard, and they&#8217;d make the right phone calls and get the content altered.  But that didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>One thing to look out for in the next few weeks is whether the poster alters their name, logo, or puts up a statement that they don&#8217;t officially speak for the Bradys.  If I were in the Brady Campaign, I&#8217;d certainly want to lean on MySpace a bit, and the blog owner, to try to get something like that added to avoid further damage to the message I was trying to sel.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to shut it down, I mean, imagine the reaction if the NRA tried to shut down one of us?  Plus, you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d be kind of happy just to have some real grass roots, even if it&#8217;s just one blade.  But watch for an attempt to get the MySpace blog distanced from Brady.   If it&#8217;s <i>really</i> not them, I think they&#8217;d want to.</p>
<p>If nothing changes, it&#8217;s possible they don&#8217;t really have a problem with the message being put out there, and I&#8217;ll leave it to folks to decide whether or not they are, in fact, somehow associated with the effort.  But it&#8217;s also quite possible that, unlike our side, who has to deal with real grass roots, with lots of potential for people saying stupid things, the Bradys, who enjoy much more control over their message than we do, just really don&#8217;t know quite how to deal with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165879</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, my code did not show up. it was this (minus spaces):

&lt;code&gt;&lt;a h re f=&quot; ht tp://www .stopthenra.com&quot; target=&quot;new&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;ht tp://www.brady campaign. org/xshare /myspace/images/stoptheN R Acom.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt; / a&gt;&lt;br &lt;&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, my code did not show up. it was this (minus spaces):</p>
<p><code>&lt;a h re f=" ht tp://www .stopthenra.com" target="new"&gt;&lt;img src="ht tp://www.brady campaign. org/xshare /myspace/images/stoptheN R Acom.jpg" border="0"&gt;&lt; / a&gt;&lt;br &lt;</code></p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2007/02/23/fake/comment-page-1/#comment-165878</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You scooped me, although I was going at this from another angle. If you head over there now, however, you&#039;ll find this embedded in the page (go to page, hit Ctrl-U)

&lt;code&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stopthenra.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/code&gt;

Which means, that both the MySpace page is pulling content from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership&#039;s main page, and the Brady Bunch is letting them (note the xshare/myspace/ subdirectory)

If you look carefully, you will also note that every mention of Zumbo has been taken off the page, and there are backdated posts added to  the blog. 

I can only assume that the MySpace Brady page &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; a fake, but now it is somehow  associated with them.


It&#039;s also worth noting that The Bradys don&#039;t want to discuss Zumbo, the NRA does not want to discuss Zumbo, except to state that they are not buying any more magazine articles from him, and I haven&#039;t seen any other anti-freedom critter bring up his name either. 

So if that&#039;s how everyone is gonna roll with this, how much damage did he really do?  I seem to think this has aired an issue that has long been needed to be hashed out. The NRA still doesn&#039;t want to touch this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You scooped me, although I was going at this from another angle. If you head over there now, however, you&#8217;ll find this embedded in the page (go to page, hit Ctrl-U)</p>
<p><code><a href="http://www.stopthenra.com" rel="nofollow"></a></code></p>
<p>Which means, that both the MySpace page is pulling content from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership&#8217;s main page, and the Brady Bunch is letting them (note the xshare/myspace/ subdirectory)</p>
<p>If you look carefully, you will also note that every mention of Zumbo has been taken off the page, and there are backdated posts added to  the blog. </p>
<p>I can only assume that the MySpace Brady page <b>was</b> a fake, but now it is somehow  associated with them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that The Bradys don&#8217;t want to discuss Zumbo, the NRA does not want to discuss Zumbo, except to state that they are not buying any more magazine articles from him, and I haven&#8217;t seen any other anti-freedom critter bring up his name either. </p>
<p>So if that&#8217;s how everyone is gonna roll with this, how much damage did he really do?  I seem to think this has aired an issue that has long been needed to be hashed out. The NRA still doesn&#8217;t want to touch this.</p>
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