You still have to pull the trigger with something when the rifle gets pushed forward one pull of that trigger for each shot. You can’t flip a switch and make it shoot many rounds with a single trigger pull. This is why its not a machine gun. Thats the law. There is no “spirit of the law” as that fool Feinstein said once. Its either an apple or an orange. There is no such thing as an orple. They them selves recieved a copy for (an SKS) evaluation and deemed it not to be a machine gun while in their hands anymore than they would call a rocking chair a machine gun. Thats all this thing does. Allow the rifle to rock back and forth still delivering one shot per trigger activation. The fact that you can shoot it at a higher and more even rate does not change its operation.

Riverdog, the 10-22 can fire a whole lot faster than 10 rounds per second. Look on Gungarage.com where they have the hellfire spring for sale and look at the video they claim all the firearms are legal semi auto. (they had it but they claim they are sold out and took off the video.) The one with the cool guitar music at the end. I think its called the “TAC TRIGGER AT THE END”. {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zynxN7UP9e8 } I looked on you tube but they don’t have it. I do so I will try to put it up as an mpg file but its only a .wmv which they don’t take, if you would like to see it. Just search for TAC -TRIGGER or AK47 NUTTER. They show one where the guy just holds the trigger back (as far as I can tell by that poor video) and a bunch of shells get spit out but it doesn’t work like the akins. That also happens with the ak at the end “be one of the lucky ones and get your tac trigger–TODAY!”. As far as the lawyers interpreting anything, you may be right on that one. Better safe than sorry they say. Incompetent/ignorant fools say that.

Your analogy with the insurance may be valid but you have to read the fineprint. It usually says what they cover. Some won’t cover the car if you use it for business such as a taxi. Usually, if you look real close it has a statement about racecars, street racing, speed contests or whatever they call it. They specificly say they don’t underwrite vehicles engaged in those activites. So, if you have an ‘accident’ they will just wash thier hands of you. I heard of of a guy that did that with an autozone engine. It says they are for ‘normal’ use in passenger cars and the warranty is void if you use them for : towing, taxis, speed contests, modify for speed contests, vehicles over 2 tons, etc. The man was not happy he didn’t get his 3rd engine for his 4 ton moving van.

Some say they got greedy and started making these for rifles more powerful than the 10-22 but the letter I have seen was for not a 10-22 but for an sks firing of course the world’s most popular cartridge and since its name is associated with the ak 47 which most people think is necessarily automatic, after some reflection, decided it would be better to call the goose a duck even if its not. Their sample broke off from the stock. If you look at the pictures, what happens when the nylon bushings start to wear down all crooked and this starts to jam? Thats another deficiency of this design aside from the plastic stock that won’t hold up to repeated flexing.

BTW, as I understand the principle behind the AA, it adds a second operating system to the autoloading rifle. The primary operating system is blowback, but the design of the AA seems to add recoil operation to the action. When the weapon is first fired, and reloads the chamber, it has done so by the original (legal) semi-auto blowback system. But the recoiling action then enables a second round to be fired as a slam-fire, and at a sufficiently short interval that the weapon may be fired at a rate of over 10 rounds per second. The effect of that combined system is full-auto rapid fire.

I’d bet that on first consideration, the BATFE didn’t consider the overall scope of the entire system, they just considered what each of the action operating systems did separately. Maybe their lawyer advised them that they had to interpret it that way.

Here’s an analogy, see if it passes your test.

If I buy a gasoline-driven vehicle that has a 200-hp engine, and my insurance limits my premium to a sedan rate because of the modest output of that engine, as opposed to the much higher sportscar rate for the same car with a high-output engine, but then I trick out the engine with all sorts of bolt-on stuff that adds 400 horsepower to it, I may get by with the low rate UNTIL the insurance company reads that I’ve just won Street Comp class with the car at my local dragstrip.

Granted, the insurance companies don’t go out of their way to look for this sort of cheating, but it’s cheating none the less. If a claim arises with that tricked-out supercar, they are going to refuse to pay it and may even backbill me for the premium increase if they can show that I cheated them. The least that they will do is cancel my policy.

As the Atkins Accelerator gained more sales and notoriety as a “legal” machinegun, there was no way that the BATFE could overlook the overall effect of the device: that adding the modification gave the weapon the capability to be fired like a machine gun, and that was the reason that people were paying a thousand bucks for an “accessory” to put on a rifle that only cost $200 new.

Something, either incompetence in their evaluation, or a twisted legal concept that was applied, required the BATFE to give the device the green light at first. As the reputation of the device built up, there was no way that the BATFE could overlook it, because ANY semi-auto blowback operated rifle could be modified the same way, and that loophole is big enough to arm the entire population with.

No offense to Atkins corp, they’re on our side, but their statement, flying in the face of fact as it seems to do, was written by their lawyers. Lawyers have this thing called “deniability”. If they haven’t been served with a statement from the AA owners attesting to the fact that their systems were seized, they can say that they don’t know about it, and if they don’t know about it, it LEGALLY DIDN’T HAPPEN, so they can then post a blurb saying it isn’t happening.

I think “BJ” Clinton did that a few times during his impeachment investigation.

Yep, the old deniability ruse. Fools some of the people some of the time.

That’s a story I’d like to hear.

Personally I suspect they will be grandfathered. I knew I should have bought like 20 of them when I heard about them, but I was just about to head out to law school and didnt want to take a 20,000 dollar gamble at the time. Whoever bought a pile of those will be sitting on a gold mine once they are registered.

But that’s post for another day.