Given the numbers of citizen’s that don’t bother to vote, Libertarians might have just ended up in that silent majority.

That also could mean the only reason they participate in the political process at all is because of the party that stands behind their beliefs.

And turning themselves into an actual voting block could also be reminding the two major parties that government itself IS the problem, (in 99% of situations).

For the last six years, the Republican leadership and intellectual establishment has made it clear they didn’t care at all about the libertarian agenda, in some cases all but telling us to our faces “We’re going stomp all over you and there’s nothing you can do about it because you got nowhere else to go–so suck it bitch!”

And when we predictably stopped voting for them, now they want to whine about how we’re setting the cause of liberty back because we would just sit there and take the abuse.

Most everybody gets that. It pisses me off a little to be called a Libertarian but I don’t understand how people don’t have some Libertarian leanings.

Uncle is right about the God-squad hard Republicans. Barry Goldwater had a lot of good ideas but they have been lost to history. One of the big problems with the Reagan revolution was the invasion of the God-squad.

Big L Libertarians are worse than far left democrats on national security. How hard is it to understand this stuff. Apparently pretty hard. A lot of the mess we are in today comes from the two National Parties and the Fourth Estate. I don’t think they could have screwed this country up any worse if they had tried.

As Xrlqs Wrqly said, “The notion that government has no interest in discouraging any behavior it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) ban is beyond silly. Frankly, I’m not sure which I dread more: an authoritarian government that prohibits alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, adultery, strip joints, poor dietary habits or encouraging one’s kids to learn as little as possible in school, or a looneytarian one whose members feel duty bound to pretend there is nothing socially undesirable about any of these things.”

The hard libertarian line that an ideal word is one where you can pay a toll to walk on a privately-owned sidewalk so you can buy legal heroin from your legal prostitute (as Stephen Green put it) is just goofy. People who go through the hard L phase and come out of it tend to become pretty reasonable people, but in the middle they sure believe some crazy stuff.