Comments on: ExFoleyated – a retraction of sorts http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:42:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ed Buckby http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/comment-page-1/#comment-132195 Ed Buckby Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:51:26 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/#comment-132195 As far as the consent laws go, remember around 1983 a Democrat had sex with a male page and a Republican had sex with a female page. Both pages were under 18, and I don't think EITHER went to jail. Actually, the Democrat stayed in office quite some time after that (years). And these guys DID have SEX with the page and not just dirty EMails. I think that if the police had any criminal evidence, someone would be under arrest by now. Maybe not, but probably (opinion). You know, it would be REALLY ironic as all get out if this guy REALLY broke no laws at all, and what he did, while creepy, didn't violate any statutes. Right now, I believe that's a possibility until more comes out . . . SO TO SPEAK! :D As far as the consent laws go, remember around 1983 a Democrat had sex with a male page and a Republican had sex with a female page. Both pages were under 18, and I don’t think EITHER went to jail. Actually, the Democrat stayed in office quite some time after that (years). And these guys DID have SEX with the page and not just dirty EMails.

I think that if the police had any criminal evidence, someone would be under arrest by now. Maybe not, but probably (opinion).

You know, it would be REALLY ironic as all get out if this guy REALLY broke no laws at all, and what he did, while creepy, didn’t violate any statutes.

Right now, I believe that’s a possibility until more comes out . . . SO TO SPEAK! :D

]]> By: Captain Holly http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/comment-page-1/#comment-131976 Captain Holly Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:31:41 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/#comment-131976 Regarding age of consent laws, most states also have <em>age difference</em> laws, meaning that even in states where it would be legal for a 21 year-old man to have sex with a 16 year-old boy it's still pretty illegal for a 54 year-old man to have sex with a 16 year-old boy. Hence the criminal investigation. And as I pointed out in the "Catch a Predator" thread, there's a difference between a young adult who tries to hit on a young teenager and a dirty old man who tries to do it. In the former situation, the young adult (esp. 18-19 year-olds) is more of a peer of the "victim", while in the latter situation the adult is more likely to be viewed by the kid as a parent or adult authority figure. The issue here is trust and power and the potential for exploitation. With young adults, they are more likely to be emotionally equal to the younger kid, especially since they might have recently attended the same high school together and share common experiences. With older adults, there is no common connection; the sole motivation is to find a naive child that can be controlled, manipulated and used for the adult's pleasure. Most states recognize this, which is why they passed laws that exempt young adults from rape and abuse charges if they aren't too much older than the victim. With the new hysteria about predators, I'm afraid such laws are going out the window. Regarding age of consent laws, most states also have age difference laws, meaning that even in states where it would be legal for a 21 year-old man to have sex with a 16 year-old boy it’s still pretty illegal for a 54 year-old man to have sex with a 16 year-old boy. Hence the criminal investigation.

And as I pointed out in the “Catch a Predator” thread, there’s a difference between a young adult who tries to hit on a young teenager and a dirty old man who tries to do it. In the former situation, the young adult (esp. 18-19 year-olds) is more of a peer of the “victim”, while in the latter situation the adult is more likely to be viewed by the kid as a parent or adult authority figure.

The issue here is trust and power and the potential for exploitation. With young adults, they are more likely to be emotionally equal to the younger kid, especially since they might have recently attended the same high school together and share common experiences. With older adults, there is no common connection; the sole motivation is to find a naive child that can be controlled, manipulated and used for the adult’s pleasure.

Most states recognize this, which is why they passed laws that exempt young adults from rape and abuse charges if they aren’t too much older than the victim. With the new hysteria about predators, I’m afraid such laws are going out the window.

]]> By: Standard Mischief http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/comment-page-1/#comment-131973 Standard Mischief Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:14:10 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/#comment-131973 "God-damn bitch, set me up" -Marion Barry “God-damn bitch, set me up” -Marion Barry

]]> By: chris http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/comment-page-1/#comment-131965 chris Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:51:27 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/10/04/exfoleyated_-_a_retraction_of_sorts/#comment-131965 He's lucky that he wasn't taken down by Stone Phillips on "To Catch a Predator". That would move the video of Marion Barry saying "The bitch set me up" into no. 2 on the list of all-time best bust videos. He’s lucky that he wasn’t taken down by Stone Phillips on “To Catch a Predator”.

That would move the video of Marion Barry saying “The bitch set me up” into no. 2 on the list of all-time best bust videos.

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