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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/08/15/pesky_language/comment-page-1/#comment-114032</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guav-

Why don&#039;t you just migrate on over to Daily Kos?

I think that you will be very happy there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guav-</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you just migrate on over to Daily Kos?</p>
<p>I think that you will be very happy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Guav</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/08/15/pesky_language/comment-page-1/#comment-113919</link>
		<dc:creator>Guav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, then by your logic, nobody should be concerned about anything less than total nuclear armageddon. Why stop with Muslim extremists? After all, there are considerably more important things to talk about.

There are ALWAYS &quot;more important&quot; things to talk about, that doesn&#039;t mean that nothing else matters or is important. It&#039;s just a ridiculous argument.

I guess when my friend came over with blood streaming down her face and a broken nose because her ex-boyfriend beat her up and tried to rape her, I should have just said, &quot;Oh come on, don&#039;t be a such a pussy—there are people getting hacked to death with machetes in the Congo, this is trivial.&quot;

Sure, from a perspective completely removed from any context or emotion, I would be objectively correct. But we don&#039;t ACTUALLY conduct ourselves that way or contexualize everything that happens in our life in comparison to global issues—they&#039;re two different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, then by your logic, nobody should be concerned about anything less than total nuclear armageddon. Why stop with Muslim extremists? After all, there are considerably more important things to talk about.</p>
<p>There are ALWAYS &#8220;more important&#8221; things to talk about, that doesn&#8217;t mean that nothing else matters or is important. It&#8217;s just a ridiculous argument.</p>
<p>I guess when my friend came over with blood streaming down her face and a broken nose because her ex-boyfriend beat her up and tried to rape her, I should have just said, &#8220;Oh come on, don&#8217;t be a such a pussy—there are people getting hacked to death with machetes in the Congo, this is trivial.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, from a perspective completely removed from any context or emotion, I would be objectively correct. But we don&#8217;t ACTUALLY conduct ourselves that way or contexualize everything that happens in our life in comparison to global issues—they&#8217;re two different things.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/08/15/pesky_language/comment-page-1/#comment-113912</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.

I think that it is pretty ridiculous to undertake a linguistic and etymological analsysis to determine whether someone is a racist.

BTW, I saw the film clip of Allen last night, and I also saw the &quot;victim&quot; on Good Morning America this morning behaving in a very offended manner and demanding an apology.

For a political operative whose job is to spend time in the enemy camp, he has extremely thin skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>I think that it is pretty ridiculous to undertake a linguistic and etymological analsysis to determine whether someone is a racist.</p>
<p>BTW, I saw the film clip of Allen last night, and I also saw the &#8220;victim&#8221; on Good Morning America this morning behaving in a very offended manner and demanding an apology.</p>
<p>For a political operative whose job is to spend time in the enemy camp, he has extremely thin skin.</p>
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		<title>By: #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>#9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitt Romney got into a hullabaloo because he said &quot;tar baby&quot;. There are some people with the racism chip on their shoulder. If we keep revising the language what happens to the society? I would rather keep the language and ignore the fringe lunatics that try to use their faux outrage as a media tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitt Romney got into a hullabaloo because he said &#8220;tar baby&#8221;. There are some people with the racism chip on their shoulder. If we keep revising the language what happens to the society? I would rather keep the language and ignore the fringe lunatics that try to use their faux outrage as a media tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/08/15/pesky_language/comment-page-1/#comment-113740</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care that words offend you or anyone else.

I find splitting hairs as to the derivation of words to determine whether you, I or anyone else should be offended is ridiculous.

Looking for reasons to be offended over what someone else says is a cottage industry.

There are considerably more important things to talk about.

And I didn&#039;t wake up and decide I don&#039;t like Muslims, as you have concluded.

I don&#039;t like or respect what I see a good many of them doing today.

I don&#039;t care if someone is gay, straight, white, black, Indian, Christian, Jew, Muslim,Hindu, agnostic or atheist.

What people do, as opposed to what they say, is what gets my attention.

I hear a lot about Islam being the religion of peace, but I sure don&#039;t see it, and the peaceful Muslim majority that I hear about seems to lose its voice whenever they have the chance to decry the barbarous acts of the violent minority of Muslims.

I had this discussion with a Muslim friend last week after listening to his rant about how Israel was responsible to Hezbollah&#039;s killing 8 Israeli soldiers to take 2 prisoners.

I asked him to name one thing that an Arab or nonArab Muslim nation had ever done for the Palestinians, and he went silent. His answer was correct.

So, no, when I go home tonight and watch all of the trouble that Muslim fanaticism is inflicting on our nation and a good bit of the rest of the world, I find looking for reasons to find offense at what someone else says to be a little trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care that words offend you or anyone else.</p>
<p>I find splitting hairs as to the derivation of words to determine whether you, I or anyone else should be offended is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Looking for reasons to be offended over what someone else says is a cottage industry.</p>
<p>There are considerably more important things to talk about.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t wake up and decide I don&#8217;t like Muslims, as you have concluded.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like or respect what I see a good many of them doing today.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if someone is gay, straight, white, black, Indian, Christian, Jew, Muslim,Hindu, agnostic or atheist.</p>
<p>What people do, as opposed to what they say, is what gets my attention.</p>
<p>I hear a lot about Islam being the religion of peace, but I sure don&#8217;t see it, and the peaceful Muslim majority that I hear about seems to lose its voice whenever they have the chance to decry the barbarous acts of the violent minority of Muslims.</p>
<p>I had this discussion with a Muslim friend last week after listening to his rant about how Israel was responsible to Hezbollah&#8217;s killing 8 Israeli soldiers to take 2 prisoners.</p>
<p>I asked him to name one thing that an Arab or nonArab Muslim nation had ever done for the Palestinians, and he went silent. His answer was correct.</p>
<p>So, no, when I go home tonight and watch all of the trouble that Muslim fanaticism is inflicting on our nation and a good bit of the rest of the world, I find looking for reasons to find offense at what someone else says to be a little trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: Guav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, what in the hell does any of that crap have to do with how our leaders conduct themselves in totally unrelated matters? 

So because you don&#039;t like Muslims nobody should care if GWB said &quot;Gosh darn I sure do hate niggers&quot;?! One has nothing to do with the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, what in the hell does any of that crap have to do with how our leaders conduct themselves in totally unrelated matters? </p>
<p>So because you don&#8217;t like Muslims nobody should care if GWB said &#8220;Gosh darn I sure do hate niggers&#8221;?! One has nothing to do with the other.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/08/15/pesky_language/comment-page-1/#comment-113738</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting offended and calling people a racist are becoming national pastimes.

I don&#039;t care if he called the guy a nigger, a homeboy, or a drunk Indian, or that it offended
the guy who was trailing him around or anyone else.

I get offended by seeing Muslims kidnap journalists and cut off their heads, blow up pizzarias full of Jewish teenagers, blow up subways and resorts, treat their women like goats, and glamorize sending their children to die for their screwed up causes.

I get offended by seeing modern Europe treat Jews not much better than they did in the 1930s and 1949s when other European nations shipped Jews back to Nazi Germany for imprsionment and extermination.

I get offended by seeing France treat Muslims and Africans like the South treated blacks in the first half of the last century &lt;strong&gt;and not hearing any complaints about it from the EU or the &lt;/strong&gt;media.

I get offended by having to work for the Federal, state and local governments through most of July and having our friends on the other side of the aisle say that&#039;s not enough.

Take that back to your piss ant liberal blogs and whine about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting offended and calling people a racist are becoming national pastimes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if he called the guy a nigger, a homeboy, or a drunk Indian, or that it offended<br />
the guy who was trailing him around or anyone else.</p>
<p>I get offended by seeing Muslims kidnap journalists and cut off their heads, blow up pizzarias full of Jewish teenagers, blow up subways and resorts, treat their women like goats, and glamorize sending their children to die for their screwed up causes.</p>
<p>I get offended by seeing modern Europe treat Jews not much better than they did in the 1930s and 1949s when other European nations shipped Jews back to Nazi Germany for imprsionment and extermination.</p>
<p>I get offended by seeing France treat Muslims and Africans like the South treated blacks in the first half of the last century <strong>and not hearing any complaints about it from the EU or the </strong>media.</p>
<p>I get offended by having to work for the Federal, state and local governments through most of July and having our friends on the other side of the aisle say that&#8217;s not enough.</p>
<p>Take that back to your piss ant liberal blogs and whine about it.</p>
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
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		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see, I sort of buy the whole Allen defense on &quot;Welcome To America.&quot;  It wasn&#039;t really a reference to his ethnicity so much as in the general spirit of the entire speech he gave - basically Jim Webb is a creature of washington, New York, and Hollywood all places that are most definitely not part of the America the average Virginia voter (or at least South Western Virginia voter) knows.  heck it was either the previous or next line in the speech when he pointed out that Webb was actually in Hollywood looking for advice and campaign donations and could only send the indian fella.

May have come off bad, but I doubt people in the South west will care - or that Webb still has more than a snow balls chance in hell of winning (even though I plan on voting for him as a protest to an incompetent Republican Majority)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see, I sort of buy the whole Allen defense on &#8220;Welcome To America.&#8221;  It wasn&#8217;t really a reference to his ethnicity so much as in the general spirit of the entire speech he gave &#8211; basically Jim Webb is a creature of washington, New York, and Hollywood all places that are most definitely not part of the America the average Virginia voter (or at least South Western Virginia voter) knows.  heck it was either the previous or next line in the speech when he pointed out that Webb was actually in Hollywood looking for advice and campaign donations and could only send the indian fella.</p>
<p>May have come off bad, but I doubt people in the South west will care &#8211; or that Webb still has more than a snow balls chance in hell of winning (even though I plan on voting for him as a protest to an incompetent Republican Majority)</p>
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		<title>By: Guav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The haircut thing was a nonsense excuse—they said it was in reference to a &quot;mohawk,&quot; but the guy he said it to has nothing even REMOTELY resembling a mohawk, not even a fauxhawk. The man in question said something to the effect of &quot;I don&#039;t have a mohawk, I have a mullet,&quot; but if you see a picture of him, you can see he does not even have a mullet. He has a normal short haircut.

My PERSONAL take on it was not that Allen was calling him a macaque, but that he was just trying to come up with a quick &quot;foreign-sounding&quot; name to mock him with—Makaka. Still unacceptable, of course, but pretty different from calling him the equivalent of a nigger.

What I think was more ignorant was telling him &quot;Welcome to America.&quot; The man was born and raised in Virgina.  So I don&#039;t think it was inherently racist to call him Makaka (unless he really was using it that way) but I think it WAS racist—or ignorantly stupid and offensive—to assume that anyone who is not white is a foreigner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The haircut thing was a nonsense excuse—they said it was in reference to a &#8220;mohawk,&#8221; but the guy he said it to has nothing even REMOTELY resembling a mohawk, not even a fauxhawk. The man in question said something to the effect of &#8220;I don&#8217;t have a mohawk, I have a mullet,&#8221; but if you see a picture of him, you can see he does not even have a mullet. He has a normal short haircut.</p>
<p>My PERSONAL take on it was not that Allen was calling him a macaque, but that he was just trying to come up with a quick &#8220;foreign-sounding&#8221; name to mock him with—Makaka. Still unacceptable, of course, but pretty different from calling him the equivalent of a nigger.</p>
<p>What I think was more ignorant was telling him &#8220;Welcome to America.&#8221; The man was born and raised in Virgina.  So I don&#8217;t think it was inherently racist to call him Makaka (unless he really was using it that way) but I think it WAS racist—or ignorantly stupid and offensive—to assume that anyone who is not white is a foreigner.</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aunt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I was going to say that same thing.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6180&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Our homegrown racists&lt;/a&gt; seem to be in the habit of throwing the word around the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I was going to say that same thing.  <a href="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6180" rel="nofollow">Our homegrown racists</a> seem to be in the habit of throwing the word around the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First, the original article has the phonetic spelling. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If they issue a correction, I&#039;ll buy that

&lt;blockquote&gt;And the racist certinaly seme to now what the word means&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, in other countries.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And Allen speaks French and his mom is a French colonial from tunisia, where tword is a racist slur along the lines of n*gger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, now you might be onto something.  Should have made that clear in the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First, the original article has the phonetic spelling. </p></blockquote>
<p>If they issue a correction, I&#8217;ll buy that</p>
<blockquote><p>And the racist certinaly seme to now what the word means</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, in other countries.</p>
<blockquote><p>And Allen speaks French and his mom is a French colonial from tunisia, where tword is a racist slur along the lines of n*gger.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, now you might be onto something.  Should have made that clear in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle

First, the original article has the phonetic spelling. The phonetic spelling that is a common mispronounciation among racists.

And the racist certinaly seme to now what the word means:&lt;a href=&quot;http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;
And Allen speaks French and his mom is a French colonial from tunisia, where tword is a racist slur along the lines of n*gger.

Any more excuses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle</p>
<p>First, the original article has the phonetic spelling. The phonetic spelling that is a common mispronounciation among racists.</p>
<p>And the racist certinaly seme to now what the word means:<a href="http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a><br />
And Allen speaks French and his mom is a French colonial from tunisia, where tword is a racist slur along the lines of n*gger.</p>
<p>Any more excuses?</p>
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