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		<title>By: OldeForce</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/03/14/woman_buying_gun_presumed_guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-59458</link>
		<dc:creator>OldeForce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! Wonder if that holds true in Colorado? A 22/45 for the wife (a birthday gift) and a 325PD for me, all within 5 days. Guess I&#039;ll wait for another day or two before I go in to pick up the extra house gun we&#039;ve decided on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! Wonder if that holds true in Colorado? A 22/45 for the wife (a birthday gift) and a 325PD for me, all within 5 days. Guess I&#8217;ll wait for another day or two before I go in to pick up the extra house gun we&#8217;ve decided on.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/03/14/woman_buying_gun_presumed_guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-59396</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, was unaware it was 2 or more and the day restriction.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, was unaware it was 2 or more and the day restriction.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sayuncle said:
&quot;if you buy 3 or more handguns at once, your name gets sent to ATF.&quot;

When a person buys 2 or more handguns within 5 or fewer business days the FFL has to complete an ATF form for multiple sales. The form is sent to the ATF and chief local law enforment official in the specific area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sayuncle said:<br />
&#8220;if you buy 3 or more handguns at once, your name gets sent to ATF.&#8221;</p>
<p>When a person buys 2 or more handguns within 5 or fewer business days the FFL has to complete an ATF form for multiple sales. The form is sent to the ATF and chief local law enforment official in the specific area.</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I concur. But I find it odd he named women. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why?  For one thing, women buy fewer guns than men, by a huge margin.  For another, women are, on average, much weaker physically, making high-caliber purchases by women of average builds look more than a tad suspicious.  I suppose if Ricker wanted to go all P.C. on us he could make a similar statement about large, strong men buying &quot;wimmins guns,&quot; but I&#039;m not sure there is any gun so wimpy no man would want to use it.  I enjoy plinking with my wife&#039;s .22 myself, for instance.  Besides, I suspect you could count on one hand all the straw purchases made by men with clean records to help their criminal lady friends score guns.

Personally, I think Ricker makes a decent point.  Even if you object to it, Stormy&#039;s basic point stands: there&#039;s a huge gulf between a 21-year-old woman who comes in wanting to buy 10 .44 magnums and &quot;every young female who purchases guns legally.&quot;  Shame on Bitter for suggesting otherwise.  Perhaps she should consider renaming herself &quot;Lying&quot; or &quot;Deceitful.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I concur. But I find it odd he named women. </p></blockquote>
<p>Why?  For one thing, women buy fewer guns than men, by a huge margin.  For another, women are, on average, much weaker physically, making high-caliber purchases by women of average builds look more than a tad suspicious.  I suppose if Ricker wanted to go all P.C. on us he could make a similar statement about large, strong men buying &#8220;wimmins guns,&#8221; but I&#8217;m not sure there is any gun so wimpy no man would want to use it.  I enjoy plinking with my wife&#8217;s .22 myself, for instance.  Besides, I suspect you could count on one hand all the straw purchases made by men with clean records to help their criminal lady friends score guns.</p>
<p>Personally, I think Ricker makes a decent point.  Even if you object to it, Stormy&#8217;s basic point stands: there&#8217;s a huge gulf between a 21-year-old woman who comes in wanting to buy 10 .44 magnums and &#8220;every young female who purchases guns legally.&#8221;  Shame on Bitter for suggesting otherwise.  Perhaps she should consider renaming herself &#8220;Lying&#8221; or &#8220;Deceitful.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/03/14/woman_buying_gun_presumed_guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-59234</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd he named women too.  Any mention of middle-eastern appearing men buying 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns?  Any mention of men with muslim sounding names buying 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns?  Did he wink in some coded manner to indicate black women only?  Should we watch out for women at the 1st amendment shop (say Kinkos) buying 10 full color photocopies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd he named women too.  Any mention of middle-eastern appearing men buying 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns?  Any mention of men with muslim sounding names buying 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns?  Did he wink in some coded manner to indicate black women only?  Should we watch out for women at the 1st amendment shop (say Kinkos) buying 10 full color photocopies?</p>
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		<title>By: Ninth Stage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Wrong Sort</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/03/14/woman_buying_gun_presumed_guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-59232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninth Stage &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Wrong Sort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now it seems that women are considered the wrong sort of people at gun shows and shops, by government agents. Skipped that sensitivity training eh lawman? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now it seems that women are considered the wrong sort of people at gun shows and shops, by government agents. Skipped that sensitivity training eh lawman? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur.  But I find it odd he named women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur.  But I find it odd he named women.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying Ricker is right.

But we can criticize him for what he actually says.  We don&#039;t have to completely mischaracterize what he says inorder to gin up faulty outrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying Ricker is right.</p>
<p>But we can criticize him for what he actually says.  We don&#8217;t have to completely mischaracterize what he says inorder to gin up faulty outrage.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree but why put woman in the same category of the other criteria.  And Ricker you would think would know that if you buy 3 or more handguns at once, your name gets sent to ATF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree but why put woman in the same category of the other criteria.  And Ricker you would think would know that if you buy 3 or more handguns at once, your name gets sent to ATF.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;m going to call Bullshit here.  If you read the article Bitter is referencing, what Ricker actually said was:

&#039;&#039;Clerks in gun stores need more training. If a 21-year-old woman comes in and wants to buy 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns, a red flag should go up.&quot;

That&#039;s not anywhere close to:

&quot;every young female who purchases guns legally should raise a red flag as being a criminal subject to federal prosecution and 10 years in prison.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to call Bullshit here.  If you read the article Bitter is referencing, what Ricker actually said was:</p>
<p>&#8221;Clerks in gun stores need more training. If a 21-year-old woman comes in and wants to buy 10 .44-caliber Magnum handguns, a red flag should go up.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not anywhere close to:</p>
<p>&#8220;every young female who purchases guns legally should raise a red flag as being a criminal subject to federal prosecution and 10 years in prison.&#8221;</p>
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