Comments on: Registering my fingers

By: SayUncle » ATF, that beacon of bureaucratic consistency, has reversed itself

Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:18:19 +0000

[...] of being made fun of for ruling that the shoestring pictured above is a machine gun, the ATF (without any prompting whatsoever) issued a retraction that basically says a part that is [...]

By: SayUncle » Conversion Devices

SayUncle » Conversion Devices — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:19:03 +0000

[...] sort of device? A shoestring? A [...]

By: SayUncle » Akins Accelerator Update

SayUncle » Akins Accelerator Update — Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:29:02 +0000

[...] So, is a simple spring now a machine gun? Wouldn’t surprise me since a shoestring is. [...]

By: SayUncle » More shoestring silliness

SayUncle » More shoestring silliness — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:15:09 +0000

[...] A while back, I told you about the legally registered shoestring that was a machine gun. In case you wanted to know, the ATF has a policy for demilling registered shoe strings: “It is unlawful for anyone to make, possess, or transfer a machinegun which is not registered in accordance with the provisions of the NFA. Since we are unable to establish that the submitted sample was manufactured and transferred in accordance with the provisions of the NFA and 922(o), we are unable to return it to you, as submitted. However, we can return your shoe string without the loops. [...]

By: SayUncle » Readily restored

SayUncle » Readily restored — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:07:51 +0000

[...] It’s not necessary to put it in a machine shop for a random number of hours when a key ring and a shoestring will convert an M1A to automatic fire. Seems rather arbitrary to me and the shoestring method would work on a number of other weapons too. I can also convert my AR-15s to full-auto fire with a few hours in a machine shop. Looks to me like the ATF is wrong on this one. But, more importantly, this creates case law to classify a whole host of rifles as potentially being NFA weapons or machine guns. [...]

By: Justin Buist

Justin Buist — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:00:43 +0000

Fodder, you were right to worry.

JPFO has a video of a field test where a BATFE agent shows that a citizen has illegally modified his FAL to be a machine gun.

It was slam firing, and only with some types of ammo, and only sometimes, but this guy was positive it was a machine gun.

On the video everybody involved with the field test (BATman and the defense) took the weapon apart to inspect it for machine gun parts. Well, the BATman attempted to take it apart. He wasn’t sure how.

Turns out the firing pin spring was so old that it had shrunk far enough to allow the slam fires. BATman didn’t like that explanation, and came up with something else which the defense shows on the video is an absurd claim.

By: countertop

countertop — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:15:10 +0000

I think you should.

By: Fodder

Fodder — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:36:40 +0000

I had an M1911A1 go all full auto on me at the range once. It was slam firing due to a mis-aligned hammer spring (my fault, I put it back together wrong). No one noticed, I think because it really did sound like one long boom. My point is I was very concered some fool might rat me out and I get a ‘visit’ from a bad uncle. Nothing ever came of it except it was a really scary way to learn that lesson once and for all.

By: Ron W

Ron W — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:49:20 +0000

Don’t forget Ruby Ridge and Waco–those who might have had “illegal” weapons were made examples for our admonition.

By: t3rrible

t3rrible — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:03:01 +0000

My hands are already registered as lethal weapons. At least that is what I tell the kids.

I am with Jay on this, don’t give them any ideas. If I have to start paying class III fees I am going to give them the finger. Methaphorically of course, no chop chop for me.

By: USCitizen

USCitizen — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:02:45 +0000

Well as long as it’s your middle finger, I think is OK. (Heh)

By: Jay G

Jay G — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:56:39 +0000

“Similarly, I�m pondering writing a letter to the ATF to ask them if I should have my finger registered because I know how to bump fire a semi-automatic rifle.”

Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ, do NOT give them any bright ideas…