Comments on: An Xrlq leaves California at 70mph, at what point does he become a Virginian http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:27:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54647 SayUncle Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:54:31 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54647 This thread has everything you need including pics of how to: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782 If you can turn a wrench, you can build one. If you need help, let me know. I can walk you through it. This thread has everything you need including pics of how to:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

If you can turn a wrench, you can build one. If you need help, let me know. I can walk you through it.

]]> By: Spoons http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54646 Spoons Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:50:25 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54646 Didn't see full instructions over there -- just a way to order a book about building one. What little I did see, though, looked WAY over my head. Guess I'll wait till I can afford a "built" one. Didn’t see full instructions over there — just a way to order a book about building one. What little I did see, though, looked WAY over my head. Guess I’ll wait till I can afford a “built” one.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54512 SayUncle Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:53:23 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54512 Yeah, but with an AK you can't hit a barn at 600 yds. Just sayin' is all. Yeah, but with an AK you can’t hit a barn at 600 yds. Just sayin’ is all.

]]> By: Jay G http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54511 Jay G Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:51:20 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54511 I added up the cost of building my AK, and even with a G2 trigger and upgraded receiver it only cost me $225. Just sayin' is all... ;) I added up the cost of building my AK, and even with a G2 trigger and upgraded receiver it only cost me $225.

Just sayin’ is all… ;)

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54510 SayUncle Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:45:56 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54510 Pretty easy to build and all the instructions can be found at ar15.com. In terms of savings, you can buy a new bushmaster for between $800 - $1200. You could build a comparable rifle for under $600. But count on $600 when you factor in 5 or so magazines. Pretty easy to build and all the instructions can be found at ar15.com. In terms of savings, you can buy a new bushmaster for between $800 – $1200. You could build a comparable rifle for under $600. But count on $600 when you factor in 5 or so magazines.

]]> By: Spoons http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54509 Spoons Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:44:21 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54509 It was nice to meet X on his way through Illinois. But on to more pressing matters -- how tough is it to build an AR, and how much savings are we talking about? :-) It was nice to meet X on his way through Illinois.

But on to more pressing matters — how tough is it to build an AR, and how much savings are we talking about?

:-)

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54485 Xrlq Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:52:08 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54485 That's mostly right, though it goes back further than Davis. IIRC it was the Wilson Administration that lowered the non-tax tax in the first place. Prior to that, CA's vehicle registration "fee" was just as bad as Virginia's. I did, however, think of one legal right I lost by moving from CA to VA: the right to detect radar. I considered mentioning medical marijuana, but due to the interference from the feds, that right isn't worth much anyway. That’s mostly right, though it goes back further than Davis. IIRC it was the Wilson Administration that lowered the non-tax tax in the first place. Prior to that, CA’s vehicle registration “fee” was just as bad as Virginia’s.

I did, however, think of one legal right I lost by moving from CA to VA: the right to detect radar. I considered mentioning medical marijuana, but due to the interference from the feds, that right isn’t worth much anyway.

]]> By: Marc http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54333 Marc Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54333 err - ... because Arnold dumped the Davis era auto registration "non"-tax. err – … because Arnold dumped the Davis era auto registration “non”-tax.

]]> By: Marc http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54332 Marc Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:25:55 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54332 "The one area where VA really does nail you relative to CA is automobile registration." and California is only better because Arnold Dumped Davis. “The one area where VA really does nail you relative to CA is automobile registration.” and California is only better because Arnold Dumped Davis.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54331 Dennis Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:10:12 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54331 Just as an example. the AR-7 "survival .22 rifle" is legal in Kali. The old pistol version with the identical action is an "assault pistol" since the magazine is forward of the trigger guard! 5 more years..... Just as an example. the AR-7 “survival .22 rifle” is legal in Kali. The old pistol version with the identical action is an “assault pistol” since the magazine is forward of the trigger guard!

5 more years…..

]]> By: Fodder http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54329 Fodder Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:08:50 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54329 Josh (at the top) is correct. The big danger is all the gray areas in the PRK (Peoples Rebuplic of Kali) laws. The attorney (hack, spit) general can just up and add some things to the ban list, as can some Kali DOJ department who's name escapes me right now. The current Kali AWB is uninterpitable. Several county district attorneys offices are quitely sueing the AG and DOJ to get it clarified. Josh (at the top) is correct. The big danger is all the gray areas in the PRK (Peoples Rebuplic of Kali) laws. The attorney (hack, spit) general can just up and add some things to the ban list, as can some Kali DOJ department who’s name escapes me right now.

The current Kali AWB is uninterpitable. Several county district attorneys offices are quitely sueing the AG and DOJ to get it clarified.

]]> By: robert http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54327 robert Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:56:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54327 Disgusting. Let's keep in mind that he ought to be able to buy any firearm anywhere at anytime, possess and move it wherever, whenever with zero registration/liability/legal consequences. Like a power drill. A mower. A hammer. A box of dishwashing detergent. A roll of barbed wire. A car battery. A camera. The government was specifically prohibited from infringing on this right. Used to be a free country. Disgusting. Let’s keep in mind that he ought to be able to buy any firearm anywhere at anytime, possess and move it wherever, whenever with zero registration/liability/legal consequences.

Like a power drill. A mower. A hammer. A box of dishwashing detergent. A roll of barbed wire. A car battery. A camera. The government was specifically prohibited from infringing on this right.

Used to be a free country.

]]> By: GLN Admin http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54326 GLN Admin Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:44:11 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54326 XRLQ can only buy a rifle in a state that is on the perimeter of CA until he gets to VA and sets that up. Make perfect sense? XRLQ can only buy a rifle in a state that is on the perimeter of CA until he gets to VA and sets that up. Make perfect sense?

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54276 Xrlq Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:00:33 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54276 VIrginia will never be known as a tax haven, but it is compared to California. Income tax tops out at 5.75%, while California's is upwards of 9%. Sales tax is 5%, vs. California's is 7.25% statewide, and 7.75% in most localities. Even property tax is a relief, due to the lack of other non-tax taxes in CA that push the real rate close to 2% - vs. .63% in the county I'm settling in. Add to that the fact that the property values are much lower to begin with, and you end up paying a fraction of the property tax you would for a comparable home in CA. The one area where VA really does nail you relative to CA is automobile registration. VIrginia will never be known as a tax haven, but it is compared to California. Income tax tops out at 5.75%, while California’s is upwards of 9%. Sales tax is 5%, vs. California’s is 7.25% statewide, and 7.75% in most localities. Even property tax is a relief, due to the lack of other non-tax taxes in CA that push the real rate close to 2% – vs. .63% in the county I’m settling in. Add to that the fact that the property values are much lower to begin with, and you end up paying a fraction of the property tax you would for a comparable home in CA. The one area where VA really does nail you relative to CA is automobile registration.

]]> By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54274 SayUncle Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:59:11 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54274 Well, not sure he wants to disclose that but the city has been the subject of some ATF shenanigans (wink, wink). Well, not sure he wants to disclose that but the city has been the subject of some ATF shenanigans (wink, wink).

]]> By: countertop http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54271 countertop Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:56:03 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54271 I think he is correct, he doesn't become a resident until he enters the state with the intent to remain for a period of time and manifests that genuiness of that intent by establishing an ongoing physical presence. BTW, where in Virginia is he moving to? I think he is correct, he doesn’t become a resident until he enters the state with the intent to remain for a period of time and manifests that genuiness of that intent by establishing an ongoing physical presence.

BTW, where in Virginia is he moving to?

]]> By: metulj http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54264 metulj Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:53:27 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54264 Virginia: Free State? Maybe on guns, but the Commonwealth has a law against everything and two laws against most things. And if you think you are getting away from taxes by leaving California, think again. Virginia: Free State? Maybe on guns, but the Commonwealth has a law against everything and two laws against most things. And if you think you are getting away from taxes by leaving California, think again.

]]> By: Tam http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54165 Tam Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:15:34 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54165 He could pay for it, and it would be "his", but it would have to live in our vault until he got himself proof of residence in a free state that would let him put it on a 4473. He could pay for it, and it would be “his”, but it would have to live in our vault until he got himself proof of residence in a free state that would let him put it on a 4473.

]]> By: Josh http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/22/an_xrlq_leaves_california_at_70mph_at_what_point_does_he_become_a_virginian/comment-page-1/#comment-54164 Josh Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:00:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/?p=7855#comment-54164 CA residents can purchase lower recv's out of state, but they have to leave them out of state as CA residents can't import banned guns or parts, and RRA is on the no-go list. He would have been able to order and legally purchase an off-list lower AR receiver (Mega, Lauer, Gunsmoke and a few others), like I just did as a CA resident in CA. But even that appears to be a gray area. As far as being able to purchase them out of state, I think there is a minimum residency requirement for most states for handguns, NFA guns or SBR's. When my buddy moved to Kentucky, I remember him saying he had to wait at least 6 months to buy anything or apply for a CCW, but he was able to buy a lower after he got a KY drivers license and had a lease agreement in that state (intent to stay). Congrats to Xrlq. Will the last one out of CA please turn the lights off? CA residents can purchase lower recv’s out of state, but they have to leave them out of state as CA residents can’t import banned guns or parts, and RRA is on the no-go list. He would have been able to order and legally purchase an off-list lower AR receiver (Mega, Lauer, Gunsmoke and a few others), like I just did as a CA resident in CA. But even that appears to be a gray area.

As far as being able to purchase them out of state, I think there is a minimum residency requirement for most states for handguns, NFA guns or SBR’s. When my buddy moved to Kentucky, I remember him saying he had to wait at least 6 months to buy anything or apply for a CCW, but he was able to buy a lower after he got a KY drivers license and had a lease agreement in that state (intent to stay).

Congrats to Xrlq. Will the last one out of CA please turn the lights off?

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