Comments on: Did you know. . . http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:48:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SayUncle http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-54091 SayUncle Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:54:47 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-54091 Key word: fantasy. Here in the real world, it could exist on both sides, since it means: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. That could fit communism as well as Mussolini’s brand of right wing fascism (specifically using the term right-wing because Mussolini did so himself). Key word: fantasy. Here in the real world, it could exist on both sides, since it means:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

That could fit communism as well as Mussolini’s brand of right wing fascism (specifically using the term right-wing because Mussolini did so himself).

]]> By: kevin http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-54087 kevin Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:49:01 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-54087 In what fantasy world is fascism not on the right side of the political spectrum? In what fantasy world is fascism not on the right side of the political spectrum?

]]> By: tgirsch http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-54080 tgirsch Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:42:27 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-54080 <b>X:</b> Yeah, but if you use logic like that, you might infer from the 2003 SOTU that the president was telling us that Saddam Hussein was actively supporting the perpetrators of 9/11. So logic like that is clearly off-limits. :) Aside from that, point taken. That aside, as unjustifiable as it is, I'm not sure holocaust denial automatically qualifies one as a Nazi, or even a Nazi sympathizer. X:

Yeah, but if you use logic like that, you might infer from the 2003 SOTU that the president was telling us that Saddam Hussein was actively supporting the perpetrators of 9/11. So logic like that is clearly off-limits. :) Aside from that, point taken.

That aside, as unjustifiable as it is, I’m not sure holocaust denial automatically qualifies one as a Nazi, or even a Nazi sympathizer.

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-53927 Xrlq Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:44:05 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-53927 Tgirsch: Irving may have some views on inconsequential issues that could be construed as right or left, but by and large, he is known for one view, and one view only: denying the Holocaust. Also, if their basis for calling him right-wing was any issue other than his holocaust revisionism, it would be irrelevant to the story, just as it would be to report that a right-leaning (or left-leaning, or anything-else-leaning) bandit had just robbed the local 7-11. Thus, the only reasonable inference to be drawn is that the author of the story considered Irving right-wing because he holds (or held) a view of history that is unduly friendly to the Nazis. Tgirsch: Irving may have some views on inconsequential issues that could be construed as right or left, but by and large, he is known for one view, and one view only: denying the Holocaust. Also, if their basis for calling him right-wing was any issue other than his holocaust revisionism, it would be irrelevant to the story, just as it would be to report that a right-leaning (or left-leaning, or anything-else-leaning) bandit had just robbed the local 7-11. Thus, the only reasonable inference to be drawn is that the author of the story considered Irving right-wing because he holds (or held) a view of history that is unduly friendly to the Nazis.

]]> By: tgirsch http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-53914 tgirsch Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:15:58 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-53914 Where do they equate Nazis with right-leaning? They say the historian is right-leaning, but the don't say that he's a Nazi or that Nazis are right-leaning anywhere <i>I</i> can see. If the historian is <i>not</i> right-leaning, then by all means they should be dinged for reporting that incorrectly, but otherwise, I'm not quite sure where the foul is. Where do they equate Nazis with right-leaning? They say the historian is right-leaning, but the don’t say that he’s a Nazi or that Nazis are right-leaning anywhere I can see. If the historian is not right-leaning, then by all means they should be dinged for reporting that incorrectly, but otherwise, I’m not quite sure where the foul is.

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/comment-page-1/#comment-53908 Xrlq Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:42:31 +0000 http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/02/20/did_you_know_-3/#comment-53908 <blockquote>And shame on the media for equating Nazis as right leaning.</blockquote> It's a matter of simple logic, really: 1. I don't like you. 2. I don't like the Nazis. 3. Therefore, you are a Nazi.

And shame on the media for equating Nazis as right leaning.

It’s a matter of simple logic, really:

1. I don’t like you.
2. I don’t like the Nazis.
3. Therefore, you are a Nazi.

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